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Big letdown for everyone |
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16 | 14.68% |
Big letdown for us crazy people |
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Meh |
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Gonna get cancelled before release |
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finally, real news.
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Depending on where you live and the traction battery capacity, they'll be eligible for up to $10,000 in direct tax credits for a few years until Toyota hits the US 200K unit BEV/PHEV tax credit limit as the law stands now. |
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This is IMO essentially another Subaru bailout dressed up as progress. |
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From the Tokyo show on 9/24:
Toyota chief engineer Tetsuya Tada said that they want to make “a new 86 that surpasses the Supra. This is what the customer expects”. https://www.grandtournation.com/cars...z6u4xv2bObui4o I sure hope they are right...if so it's time to start saving my pennies! |
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It goes back to the '80's after Toyota announced US production at the former NUMMI plant in Freemont, CA. Japanese unions went apoplectic at the thought of outsourcing production, resulting in civil unrest. Some Japanese politicians not owned by Toyota saw an opening to advance their interests and proposed breaking up Toyota claiming that it was a monopoly.
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"Toyota's lead engineer on the program recently said the development team wants the next 86 to leapfrog the Supra in terms of driving enjoyment, which may seem like a stretch, but it doesn't necessarily imply that it will be faster or otherwise more capable. What remains to be seen is whether the twins will continue to ride on a modified Subaru platform or migrate to the Toyota New Global Architecture platform. That decision will have implications for the choice of powertrain going into the next-generation car, as a boxer engine (which both cars currently employ) would likely only mate up to a Subaru-derived chassis. Toyota has access to a longitudinal 4-cylinder, though it has only appeared in turbocharged applications thus far."
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Why would they confirm this now if they don’t plan on showing anything in Tokyo next month? Genuinely asking.
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But like I said, I want interesting cars. What is out there right now is pretty much an electrified version of a corolla (Leaf, Volt/bolt), or an electrified version of a BMW (Tesla range) , with a sprinkle of weirdness just to make things interesting.... Those don't really make me WANT them...but the electrified hippie van? sign me up! |
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We are focused on one line of the news. The announcement is not just that they will make a second gen. In fact they just sort of threw that in as an afterthought. The big news they are conveying is their EV stuff. THAT is what we will see at the show. Just wait and see.
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