Let's discuss SCCA Stock Class

[Evil86]

Originally Posted by ABQautoxer

I actually would disagree, locally at least. I don't believe there is any performance advantage so unless you win nationals, I would say this could fall under comfort and convenience on a regional level.


Simmons,

Thanks for the weight, its encouraging! My car should only be 14lbs heavier and you still have the 20lbs of wheel weight to lose, possibly more. Do those scale usually measure pretty accurately?

Granted, the weight wouldn't be a great penalty, in fact, I could lose that much weight or more off of my fat ass, but the expense would still be there, wouldn't it? It is my understanding that any trim change has to include the entire trim, so it would need the leather/alcantra seats, the keyless entry, and on down the line.

Of course, local groups can grant exceptions if they want. Locally, we are talking about letting a 1st generation Boxer run in STR eventhough nationally it can't.

[ABQautoxer]

Originally Posted by Evil86

Granted, the weight wouldn't be a great penalty, in fact, I could lose that much weight or more off of my fat ass, but the expense would still be there, wouldn't it? It is my understanding that any trim change has to include the entire trim, so it would need the leather/alcantra seats, the keyless entry, and on down the line.

Of course, local groups can grant exceptions if they want. Locally, we are talking about letting a 1st generation Boxer run in STR eventhough nationally it can't.

That's crazy talk, I'm not dieting which would save me money when I can more expensively buy lighter car parts and eat like a fatty.

According to the Subaru website, a BRZ premium has the Limited wing as an line option. Putting it on the FRS of course isn't as grey but I would do it and make fun of anyone saying I did it to make the car faster.

[ayau]

It may not be legal, but doubt anyone would protest the wing.

[Simmons]

Originally Posted by ABQautoxer

Cool, thanks again, good info. On your alignment, did you have to wiggle anything in the rear to get your settings? Seems like the rear is pretty good compared to some I had seen. We could probably talk about this at Nats but probably other people are curious.

My post might have been misleading, My front camber was -1.6 left/ -1.4 right. My rear was only -.5 and -.9


Simmons

[Simmons]

Originally Posted by dwx

Gas Is pretty heavy and would explain some of the differences I can't remember anyone weighing the car with the light on.

57/43 weight distribution but that's not surprising. The bulk of the weight loss is in the rear of the car. With some lighter wheels and tires and a muffler delete pipe you could get awfully close to 2600 lbs. I was shooting for 2650 in my limited. There is a good 6-7 lbs if you drain the washer fluid.

Of course I could probably stand to lose a few lbs myself.

That was going to be my next question, hoe Low can you run the gas without starving?

Simmons

[ABQautoxer]

Originally Posted by Simmons-Racing

My post might have been misleading, My front camber was -1.6 left/ -1.4 right. My rear was only -.5 and -.9

Simmons

That's very low compared to mine (-1.6 and -1.9 but I had nearly a full tank of gas) but again looks consistent with the fact most seem to have more negative camber in the right rear stock. Did you try to change anything or is that just OEM with no wiggle attempts?

I ran the car with not quite the light on with no issue but low grip from the stock tires. If its like the WRX, we might be able to run well into the light being on.

[xwd]

I have only heard of Phil at Element Tuning having a fuel starvation issue but that was on a road course using like 285 Hoosier slicks... I really don't think it will be an issue running the car with less than 1/8th of a tank.

Interesting on the rear camber differences. I'm at around -1.2 in the left and -1.3 in the right with regards to rear camber, I don't remember how much gas I had at the time. -.5 and .-9 seems pretty low. The car really changes camber based on height but you figure maybe 60lbs for gas, I'm not sure about it making that big of a difference.

[dsgerbc]

Originally Posted by Evil86

Yes. Also expensive because you have to install the entire trim along with the spoiler. Plus the spoiler is heavy.

What trim? It's a standalone option on a Premium.

[xwd]

It's a port installed option which isn't legal to add to a Premium car. So you would have to turn the Premium into a Limited to legally use it.

[ABQautoxer]

Subaru has the weird situation where the port options are their factory options installer as you probably know. So many port options are stock legal and listed partially in the rule book. For a WRX things like the port installed short shifter, boost gauge, etc are legal in stock explicitly. You could go and get an SEB clarification on it but again since its no performance advantage, I'd be willing to take my chances.

[des]

We've started out with the light on, taken 16 runs on concrete on Dunlops with no fuel-starve issues, and still only been able to put 12 gallons or so into the tank afterward.

[jdrxb9]

All my info is over in the other stock class discussion (http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6319) but to address some items here:

Originally Posted by ayau

anyone experience any chunking on the oem or other street tires?

I've run 225 AD08's for well over 100 runs (flipped at 115), usually with a co-driver, including some pretty hot days (only felt the need to borrow a sprayer once) with no problems.

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FWIW, my BRZ premium weighed 2,650 on the scales at the Dover SuperShootout. I didn't bother recording corner weights because the setup wasn't perfectly level. That was just finished running - no trunk/interior junk, fuel light just on, 15.5 lb wheels, otherwise completely stock.

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We've run 8+ runs with the fuel light on and not had any problems on AD08's on fairly level lots - however, it has never taken more than 11.X gal. to fill it afterward.

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DWX - please keep us posted on your A6 experience - I'm curious how the life expectancy will turn out!

[xwd]

Quick stock class rules question. I would like to install a water temp gauge and have one of those radiator hose adapters, would that be considered legal? I'm guessing yes but you never know since it requires hacking up a radiator hose.

[whataboutbob]

Originally Posted by ayau

anyone experience any chunking on the oem or other street tires?

Yeah, front tires are missing chunks after 2 days here. Not horrible, but there are some pieces missing.

BTW, I put a Tanabe front strut bar on mine. Everything else is completely stock right now.