Potential Cause of rumored GR86’s blown engine? Seal packing(RTV) was peeled off

[timurrrr]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not to mention that Toyota doesn’t make the damn things to start with

It's a shame Toyota and Subaru don't share warranty across dealerships.

[removedonut]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Read the warranty. (failures resulting directly from) Modifications beyond stock and the use of non approved parts is a guaranteed warranty denial no matter who installed them.

There is no grounds for warranty denial simply because the car has had non-OEM parts installed. This is true both in the verbiage of the warranty and in the law.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by removedonut

There is no grounds for warranty denial simply because the car has had non-OEM parts installed. This is true both in the verbiage of the warranty and in the law.

Right from the warranty docs.
They say it twice.

This warranty does not cover damage or failures resulting directly or indirectly from any of the following:

Modification, alteration or tampering, disconnection, including installation of non-Toyota Accessories

• Repairs and adjustments caused by improper maintenance, lack of required maintenance and/or the use of fluids, fuel, oil, or lubricants other than those recommended in your Owner’s Manual

• Installation of non-Toyota Parts

[Teseo]

Hope TRD come with catless UEL. Ford Racing lineup at least sell aftermarket parts (above msrp) and install it with warranty like Roush

[Great6]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Right from the warranty docs.
They say it twice.

This warranty does not cover damage or failures resulting directly or indirectly from any of the following:

Modification, alteration or tampering, disconnection, including installation of non-Toyota Accessories

• Repairs and adjustments caused by improper maintenance, lack of required maintenance and/or the use of fluids, fuel, oil, or lubricants other than those recommended in your Owner’s Manual

• Installation of non-Toyota Parts

Warranty language doesn't supersede federal law.
Modifications beyond stock and the use of non approved parts is not a guaranteed warranty denial no matter who installed them.
It's literally in the first line of the text you quoted. The onus is legally on the manufacturer which they will almost always try to get out of. The problem is most people aren't willing to lawyer up, understandably so.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/16/700.10

[mycrors7]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Right from the warranty docs.
They say it twice.

This warranty does not cover damage or failures resulting directly or indirectly from any of the following:

Modification, alteration or tampering, disconnection, including installation of non-Toyota Accessories

• Repairs and adjustments caused by improper maintenance, lack of required maintenance and/or the use of fluids, fuel, oil, or lubricants other than those recommended in your Owner’s Manual

• Installation of non-Toyota Parts

so would this mean using the OEM Subaru "STI" branded baffled oil pan that is available wouldn't void warranty on a BRZ because its an OEM part made by Subaru?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Great6

Warranty language doesn't supersede federal law.
Modifications beyond stock and the use of non approved parts is not a guaranteed warranty denial no matter who installed them.
It's literally in the first line of the text you quoted. The onus is legally on the manufacturer which they will almost always try to get out of. The problem is most people aren't willing to lawyer up, understandably so.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/16/700.10

In the context of the discussion here and specific to the aftermarket baffle plate that I was speaking to the dealership would be well within the wording of the warranty terms and give them an out in the event of oil starvation.

I was not making broad and reaching statements about warranties in general.

I do not see where the first line I quoted says anything about them having to prove the association.

"This warranty does not cover damage or failures resulting directly or indirectly from any of the following"


Oh and did you miss or ignore the last line of what you linked?

"This does not preclude a warrantor from expressly excluding liability for defects or damage caused by “unauthorized” articles or service; nor does it preclude the warrantor from denying liability where the warrantor can demonstrate that the defect or damage was so caused."

Their wording is well within the law. Cat manufacturers have good lawyer and they know what they are doing.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mycrors7

so would this mean using the OEM Subaru "STI" branded baffled oil pan that is available wouldn't void warranty on a BRZ because its an OEM part made by Subaru?

STI/TRD/GR add ons are considered manufacturer parts and fully covered by warranty.

[mycrors7]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

STI/TRD/GR add ons are considered manufacturer parts and fully covered by warranty.

time to raid the brz "sti" cup car parts list for everything LOL

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by mycrors7

time to raid the brz "sti" cup car parts list for everything LOL

The STi Cup car may not have all approved STi parts though.

[mycrors7]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The STi Cup car may not have all approved STi parts though.

there's a list of sti parts that are used and a much longer list of aftermarket parts that are approved for the cup series. teams can use any combination of any parts, but having a baffled oil pan option that wouldnt affect warranty is ideal for someone who cares for their vehicle's warranty

essentially the STI parts list its just full suspension/subframe bushings that we have had since gen1, sti coilovers(trying to get more info on these to see if its just a shock/spring or an actual adjustable coilover) and the baffled oil pan.

[timurrrr]

I suggest everyone who has an Instagram or a Facebook account to post something like the picture below, and tag Toyota USA.



(picture not mine, but I think it is good meme material)

[timurrrr]

Jack from Savage Geese reposted my story on IG. He has 8k followers.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

I suggest everyone who has an Instagram or a Facebook account to post something like the picture below, and tag Toyota USA.



(picture not mine, but I think it is good meme material)

Can’t tag Toyota, won’t let me on IG.


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