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i_deecee · 03-20-2016, 08:18 PM

was my cousin's car, bought it from him way under a CPO price. i would say 80% manual mode 20% in D. I have a tanabe concept g single exit.

FRSBRZGT86FAN · 03-20-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nmctacticz

anyone out here actually got to test drive both a manual and auto and still went with the flappy paddles

Me, but I went specifically for the auto for the reason I already said, while I was waiting for my car to be prepped for delivery I asked if I could drive one they had with Firestorm with a TRD intake and exhaust. It's very fun, way easier to get the rear to step out and more playful.

Teseo · 03-20-2016, 08:46 PM

For 200hp car is not worth it with paddle shift imo

Whodunit · 03-20-2016, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nmctacticz

C'mon man give the autos a chance... at the end of the day not even a GTR is a manual anymore!!!

You're right, they use a dual clutch which is an incredible transmission.

I really hate seeing this because it just confirms people group all automatics.

There is such a massive difference between a proper dual clutch like the gtr and 911 have, compared to a normal automatic with a torque converter that has a "manual" mode. A DCT doesn't have a torque converter, the worst part of an auto tranny.

Please don't compare the tiptronic automatics to a proper dual clutch. The twins are not a dual clutch.

finch1750 · 03-21-2016, 12:58 AM

ib4l

This: http://club4ag.com/frs-experience/

And this (even though he wrote it after I got the car, very accurate): http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6485

In terms of exhaust drone is a big issue in AT due to the low cruising RPM if you are lazy like me and leave it in full auto 80% of the time. I went through 3 exhausts before I was happy with my Tanabe Concept G. This car has no sound deadening and bad accustics it seems so its loud inside. Get something quieter and be happy (Perrin resonated, Tanabe, Ft86SF). If you end up wanting more noise get a header, overpipe, front pip, or any combination of those til you're happy with your set-up. Everyone is different.

Also the MT is this car sucks imo, but I didnt know that til I drove one way later and am very happy with my AT after that fact

ort895 · 03-21-2016, 08:41 AM

I went with an auto because right now it's my only car to drive. So I want something sporty and fun but I also want the ability to just cruise.
I love it. Also, I can usually keep up with it beat "faster" cars to 60 because most guys can't shift fast enough.

Cole · 03-21-2016, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whodunit

You're right, they use a dual clutch which is an incredible transmission.

I really hate seeing this because it just confirms people group all automatics.

There is such a massive difference between a proper dual clutch like the gtr and 911 have, compared to a normal automatic with a torque converter that has a "manual" mode. A DCT doesn't have a torque converter, the worst part of an auto tranny.

Please don't compare the tiptronic automatics to a proper dual clutch. The twins are not a dual clutch.

And for the purposes of grouping things together, we have cars with clutches and cars without clutches. No one except for butthurt enthusiasts give a damn whether or not the GTR or 911 has a torque converter or a dual clutch.

We could argue in circles all day, but at the end of the day, the GTR and the 911 still have an automatic transmission

Kestrel · 03-21-2016, 09:42 AM

Flappy Wappy all day because racecar

projectXTR · 03-21-2016, 09:49 AM

I wish I went with the auto because of the daily stop and go traffic during my commute.
Unfortunately I didn't have the patience to wait for it and bought my car which just came in when I visited the garage.

sodjer · 03-21-2016, 01:40 PM

At 6'5" there aren't a lot of manuals I can drive w/o bashing my knee into the steering wheel. Same knee I've destroyed, so it probably wouldn't really get along with the repetitive motion either. (Torn every ligament at least once, taking the meniscus with them - also now have an unstable patella, so if I twist just right my knee cap slides out and gets stuck on the side of the knee

) I seriously considered the manual but didn't think it'd be a comfortable decision in the long run, plus I was able to find my auto for a great price.

I drive it in manual mode quite a bit, but can't comment on the exhaust as mine is still all stock. I am considering an UEL header and Perrin resonated cat back soon, but that shouldn't be loud or drone.

skye67 · 03-22-2016, 04:52 PM

I've owned both the manual and automatic transmission. As I was driving the car during business I found it very busy shifting and talking on the phone at the same time. After crashing my first car, I got an automatic for my second one. I drive the car almost 100% in sport mode. I find the car very responsive in the shifting and downshifting when I need it. And now that I replace the rear end with a 4.65 gear ratios. In sport mode it shifts very aggressively. And with a full open tablet set up on my car, intake to exhaust. I find a car is very sporty and quick. And in quick as an quicker than a New V6 Camaro or an older RX8.

congee · 03-22-2016, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skye67

I've owned both the manual and automatic transmission. As I was driving the car during business I found it very busy shifting and talking on the phone at the same time. After crashing my first car, I got an automatic for my second one. I drive the car almost 100% in sport mode. I find the car very responsive in the shifting and downshifting when I need it. And now that I replace the rear end with a 4.65 gear ratios. In sport mode it shifts very aggressively. And with a full open tablet set up on my car, intake to exhaust. I find a car is very sporty and quick. And in quick as an quicker than a New V6 Camaro or an older RX8.

Headers too???

I'm debating on either getting my final drive first or headers first. What would you guys recommend?

fumanchu1 · 03-22-2016, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nmctacticz

Bruh you're talking about whats faster lol ... you have a BRZ not an STI lol

EDIT: auto or manual your car is still a brz/frs not a V8 mustang so dont include speed in this

Bring an STI, unless it's written cobb under the hood I'm not scared

Also I think there may be something faulty with your sarcasm detector.

fumanchu1 · 03-22-2016, 05:09 PM

I use auto mode... by which I mean my brain automatically tells my body to shift gears without me having to think about it... I AM THE AUTO TRANSMISSION, not to be confused with the auto tranny, who's just a trans that's into cars.

03-21-2016, 12:58 AM	#19
finch1750 Undisputed El Presidente Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Zenki 37J ZN6 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 11,571 Thanks: 9,382 Thanked 9,397 Times in 5,261 Posts Mentioned: 374 Post(s) Tagged: 33 Thread(s)	ib4l This: http://club4ag.com/frs-experience/ And this (even though he wrote it after I got the car, very accurate): http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6485 In terms of exhaust drone is a big issue in AT due to the low cruising RPM if you are lazy like me and leave it in full auto 80% of the time. I went through 3 exhausts before I was happy with my Tanabe Concept G. This car has no sound deadening and bad accustics it seems so its loud inside. Get something quieter and be happy (Perrin resonated, Tanabe, Ft86SF). If you end up wanting more noise get a header, overpipe, front pip, or any combination of those til you're happy with your set-up. Everyone is different. Also the MT is this car sucks imo, but I didnt know that til I drove one way later and am very happy with my AT after that fact __________________ "Just like how a strut bar somehow enables you to corner 20MPH faster around a cloverleaf on-ramp, when the reality is, you can do it already but you just don't have to balls to do it." - CSG David

03-21-2016, 08:41 AM	#20
ort895 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Drives: 2013 BRZ Location: North Carolina Posts: 695 Thanks: 195 Thanked 139 Times in 113 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I went with an auto because right now it's my only car to drive. So I want something sporty and fun but I also want the ability to just cruise. I love it. Also, I can usually keep up with it beat "faster" cars to 60 because most guys can't shift fast enough. __________________ Yeah its an auto, deal with it.

03-22-2016, 04:52 PM	#25
skye67 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 black AT, OFT, 4.65 Location: Fresno, California Posts: 187 Thanks: 180 Thanked 69 Times in 49 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've owned both the manual and automatic transmission. As I was driving the car during business I found it very busy shifting and talking on the phone at the same time. After crashing my first car, I got an automatic for my second one. I drive the car almost 100% in sport mode. I find the car very responsive in the shifting and downshifting when I need it. And now that I replace the rear end with a 4.65 gear ratios. In sport mode it shifts very aggressively. And with a full open tablet set up on my car, intake to exhaust. I find a car is very sporty and quick. And in quick as an quicker than a New V6 Camaro or an older RX8. __________________ Living the dream in a nightmare.

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03-20-2016, 08:18 PM	#15
i_deecee Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: Firestorm FRS Location: OC SoCal Posts: 202 Thanks: 9 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	was my cousin's car, bought it from him way under a CPO price. i would say 80% manual mode 20% in D. I have a tanabe concept g single exit.

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projectXTR Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Sterling Silver BRZ Location: Belgium Posts: 303 Thanks: 100 Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I wish I went with the auto because of the daily stop and go traffic during my commute. Unfortunately I didn't have the patience to wait for it and bought my car which just came in when I visited the garage.

03-21-2016, 01:40 PM	#24
sodjer Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Drives: 2015 BRZ Limited Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 70 Thanks: 9 Thanked 60 Times in 31 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	At 6'5" there aren't a lot of manuals I can drive w/o bashing my knee into the steering wheel. Same knee I've destroyed, so it probably wouldn't really get along with the repetitive motion either. (Torn every ligament at least once, taking the meniscus with them - also now have an unstable patella, so if I twist just right my knee cap slides out and gets stuck on the side of the knee ) I seriously considered the manual but didn't think it'd be a comfortable decision in the long run, plus I was able to find my auto for a great price. I drive it in manual mode quite a bit, but can't comment on the exhaust as mine is still all stock. I am considering an UEL header and Perrin resonated cat back soon, but that shouldn't be loud or drone.

03-22-2016, 05:09 PM	#28
fumanchu1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2013 Brz C38 (bought not built :P) Location: Gatineau, Qc, Canada Posts: 1,914 Thanks: 422 Thanked 1,249 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 6 Thread(s)	I use auto mode... by which I mean my brain automatically tells my body to shift gears without me having to think about it... I AM THE AUTO TRANSMISSION, not to be confused with the auto tranny, who's just a trans that's into cars.

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