|
GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) General topics for the GR86 second-gen 86 |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
04-12-2021, 01:58 AM | #1 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: WR Blue Pearl 2022 Subaru BRZ
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 818
Thanks: 790
Thanked 517 Times in 274 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
2nd Gen front side air intakes - what are the benifits
So I'm not fully versed on what's going with these front side air intakes. I'd really love someone who is well versed in this to add their thoughts.
I assume that its for break cooling, but how does it achieve that when it 'seems' to be just directly hitting the front tires. In fact, as yet I haven't seen anyone sticking things into it to show if there is any piping to direct that air right into the break. Could it be actually for tire cooling? I get that, at speed, the vents at the rear of the front tire will actually suck air away from the wheel area, and therefore cool the breaks, but is it a case of that it really needs that front side intake to be able to do that properly? |
04-12-2021, 02:39 AM | #2 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: '15 BRZ RA
Location: Greece
Posts: 3,787
Thanks: 2,416
Thanked 1,944 Times in 1,261 Posts
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
They were saying that it is basically for improving aerodynamic efficiency. Pretty useless for me on a street car under normal highway speed limits. Reminds me somehow the persistence to go with the big rear carbon wing in the BRZ tS. These solutions are just for the looks and adding to the wow effect (real vents!), but without much effect in reality. They can work only in race tracks like the Nürburgring Nordschleife where you can go top speed.
Brake cooling will be a small side effect of these vents, but without proper air ducts it won't be optimal at all. |
The Following User Says Thank You to nikitopo For This Useful Post: | Tcoat (04-12-2021) |
04-12-2021, 04:23 AM | #3 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: WR Blue Pearl 2022 Subaru BRZ
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 818
Thanks: 790
Thanked 517 Times in 274 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
With a bit more cold air to the breaks, the car might be better for those extended break cycles or it might just be all for show, as you say. |
|
04-12-2021, 07:17 AM | #4 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
From the Subaru press release:
"The aggressive design flows into bold front fenders with a large side vent. The functional side vent reduces drag by ducting air from under the hood and fenders. The released air is directed to a side sill spoiler that creates downforce at speed" There will most certainly be at least a bit of cooling to the engine bay and possibly the brakes but their prime purpose (or at least explanation) is aero related not heat management. I am still of the opinion, that when you consider they are moving air from the bay and have added an oil cooler they are addressing a heat issue with the 2.4. Side vents are an expensive way to give a small aero effect.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Tcoat For This Useful Post: | Blighty (04-12-2021), BRZoomTX (05-04-2021), daiheadjai (04-12-2021), nikitopo (04-12-2021), spike021 (04-12-2021) |
04-12-2021, 09:01 AM | #5 |
CAD monkey
Join Date: Aug 2016
Drives: '15 GT86 Giallo - Supercharged
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 78
Thanks: 16
Thanked 66 Times in 36 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I guess they will probably reduce the high air pressure build-up in the front wheel well.
Reducing the high P inside the well could lead to more air being sucked into the "brake area" thus providing a cooling effect for the brake system. Just a guesstimate |
The Following User Says Thank You to Boccaccio For This Useful Post: | CatDaddysBBQ (07-07-2021) |
04-12-2021, 09:01 AM | #6 |
CAD monkey
Join Date: Aug 2016
Drives: '15 GT86 Giallo - Supercharged
Location: Slovenia
Posts: 78
Thanks: 16
Thanked 66 Times in 36 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I guess they will probably reduce the high air pressure build-up in the front wheel well.
Reducing the high P inside the well could lead to more air being sucked into the "brake area" thus providing a cooling effect for the brake system. Just a guesstimate |
The Following User Says Thank You to Boccaccio For This Useful Post: | Blighty (04-12-2021) |
04-12-2021, 09:21 AM | #7 |
The Dictater
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,427
Thanks: 26,109
Thanked 12,430 Times in 6,146 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Fuel economy by drag reduction is my bet. I've seen these start to pop up on some boring cars too. In fact they were so boring I forget what I saw them on.
|
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Spuds For This Useful Post: | Ash_89 (04-13-2021), Blighty (04-12-2021), jcw99 (07-19-2021), spike021 (04-12-2021), Ultramaroon (04-12-2021), x808drifter (04-12-2021) |
04-12-2021, 10:03 AM | #8 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: WR Blue Pearl 2022 Subaru BRZ
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 818
Thanks: 790
Thanked 517 Times in 274 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
The front side intakes aren't really explained. |
|
04-12-2021, 10:11 AM | #9 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
As Niki said earlier the aero effect will probably be totally valueless under most driving conditions. The cooling effect will be even less.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
|
04-12-2021, 10:15 AM | #10 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2020
Drives: -
Location: US
Posts: 288
Thanks: 203
Thanked 294 Times in 147 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Actually on some cars the vents behind the front wheels reduce drag enough to bump it up 1mpg on the highway, BMW made a big deal about it on the F3X 4 series.
|
04-12-2021, 11:13 AM | #11 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
I can buy that.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
04-12-2021, 11:43 AM | #12 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Drives: WR Blue Pearl 2022 Subaru BRZ
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 818
Thanks: 790
Thanked 517 Times in 274 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
04-12-2021, 12:20 PM | #13 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: _
Location: _
Posts: 440
Thanks: 50
Thanked 178 Times in 104 Posts
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
It's for bugs to not die on impact. Instead, they could fly thru the vents and back out alive, safely to their families.
|
04-12-2021, 12:30 PM | #14 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
LF front driver side headlight and front bumper 2013+ frs | crakajakz | Canada Classifieds | 2 | 01-31-2020 11:33 AM |
WTB: Front end parts, stock intakes, radiators, headlights, etc | Dave-ROR | Want-To-Buy Requests | 6 | 03-03-2019 02:10 AM |
WTB: Front end parts, stock intakes, radiators, headlights, etc | Dave-ROR | Southeast | 0 | 02-27-2019 11:37 PM |
WTB> 2013 (WHITEOUT) OEM Front Bumper/Side Fender (Driver's Side) | eddieEndo | Want-To-Buy Requests | 0 | 06-19-2017 11:22 PM |
WTB: Raven front bumper plus front underpanel and passenger side front fender liner | THEmailman | Want-To-Buy Requests | 1 | 04-20-2014 12:05 AM |