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olsonpg · 11-19-2020, 12:17 AM

Who in their right mind would get the new brz over a 400z?

86MLR · 11-19-2020, 12:24 AM

I like the interior, cup holders are fine because I drive with 2 hands on the steering wheel.

I dislike the exterior, alot.

That front guard and sill looks like some 16 yrar old put a wide body kit on it.

I would be kicking and scratching that sill everytime me or the Mrs got in or out.

Gen1 was clean with no boy racer crap, this thing looks like a Honda and a twin had sex and this came out, if I squint it's ok, with my glasses on it's a hard pass.

Bugger, I was looking forward to buying another new 86, a big part of car ownership for me is just looking at the car, that was why I sold my 2015 STI, it looked like a Kia that was released after I got my STI, this would remind me of a Honda full of fake vents and wings, I would hate looking at it.

Unless the Toyota doesn't have that fender and sill combo.

Disclaimer: I'm 55 and am way past slow cars getting body kits to look fast, the car might be tight and handles great, but the boy racer look has lost me, I reckon alot of the older gen wgo buy these new will be turned of by the exterior, especially that sill.

The King is dead, RIP Gen1

Meh

vh_supra26 · 11-19-2020, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by olsonpg

Who in their right mind would get the new brz over a 400z?

I'm really digging the Z proto. Unfortunately I think it's going to be awhile until we see the final product, pricing, spec etc.

Red-86 · 11-19-2020, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by olsonpg

Who in their right mind would get the new brz over a 400z?

Someone who only has US$30K to spend instead of US$50K?

There will likely be a big price difference between these cars. Different segments. The 400Z is fighting the Supra and V8 pony cars now. The new twins are competing with the MX-5, Civic SI and Veloster N in the cheap fun segment.

Cal3000 · 11-19-2020, 12:32 AM

I really don't think the engine will be that bad. Intake, exhaust, headers and an E85 tune will more than likely make you a healthy 250whp. You can only reach those numbers on Gen 1 with FI.

Oxyg3n · 11-19-2020, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dragoontwo

I honestly think the facelift analog speedometer is useless. I never find myself looking for it, and just use the digital one.

Not only do I never find myself looking for it, I totally forgot it was there LOL.

Has anyone noticed the Brz is getting a part straight from Ferrari? I'm pretty sure that front lip came from the F12 Berlinetta parts bin!

DarkPira7e · 11-19-2020, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cal3000

I really don't think the engine will be that bad. Intake, exhaust, headers and an E85 tune will more than likely make you a healthy 250whp. You can only reach those numbers on Gen 1 with FI.

People will be lucky to see 230whp with this engine with these mods. Don't misunderstand- I think that the difference in the delivery of the power is far more important, and I'm willing to bet this engine has a great deal more power under the curve than previous gen at any RPM. It'll be great for sure

Irace86.2.0 · 11-19-2020, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...33#post3384933

All in all if you were going to go to the time and trouble to swap there are far better choices.

Why do you say that?

soundman98 · 11-19-2020, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olsonpg

Who in their right mind would get the new brz over a 400z?

i dislike the styling of each enough that assuming that someone was gifting me the choice for free, it would come down to driving dynamics.

but i wouldn't put my money towards either.

DarkPira7e · 11-19-2020, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by soundman98

i dislike the styling of each enough that assuming that someone was gifting me the choice for free, it would come down to driving dynamics.

but i wouldn't put my money towards either.

Let's not forget that Toyota may save us! The GT86/FRS was the best looking in my opinion.

Irace86.2.0 · 11-19-2020, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

I covered my speedometer with a much more useful OFT screen.

I added gauges...

Oxyg3n · 11-19-2020, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

I added gauges...

How did you do that? Are cutting holes required?

Sent from my SM-G973U1 using Tapatalk

Irace86.2.0 · 11-19-2020, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxyg3n

How did you do that? Are cutting holes required?

Sent from my SM-G973U1 using Tapatalk

Ortiz custom gauge pods. I could have done an equal job myself cutting holes, mounting PVC pipe and working some Bondo and paint and/or wrapping it.

The larger boost gauge is a vent gauge using aftermarket brackets.

Incursus · 11-19-2020, 01:53 AM

I totally just found this old account to chime in on the hype/disappointment and say I'll probably order the first one that comes to my store. I'd much rather have a wing vs that duckbill, but the exterior didn't bother me after 5pm.

Couple of things I'm waiting on: Please god let there be some crazy colors. World Rally is a nice go-to, but I'm hoping for yellow and even the orange from the Crosstrek.

How much will it cost? I can pretty much order a 2020 limited on the website for $32K and have the small stuff I want. (cargo mat, dim mirror, short throw). I'd hate to see this one jump much more past the $33-34K territory before I add in the junk.

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11-19-2020, 12:17 AM	#337
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11-19-2020, 12:24 AM	#338
86MLR Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto Location: Sydney Posts: 2,203 Thanks: 500 Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I like the interior, cup holders are fine because I drive with 2 hands on the steering wheel. I dislike the exterior, alot. That front guard and sill looks like some 16 yrar old put a wide body kit on it. I would be kicking and scratching that sill everytime me or the Mrs got in or out. Gen1 was clean with no boy racer crap, this thing looks like a Honda and a twin had sex and this came out, if I squint it's ok, with my glasses on it's a hard pass. Bugger, I was looking forward to buying another new 86, a big part of car ownership for me is just looking at the car, that was why I sold my 2015 STI, it looked like a Kia that was released after I got my STI, this would remind me of a Honda full of fake vents and wings, I would hate looking at it. Unless the Toyota doesn't have that fender and sill combo. Disclaimer: I'm 55 and am way past slow cars getting body kits to look fast, the car might be tight and handles great, but the boy racer look has lost me, I reckon alot of the older gen wgo buy these new will be turned of by the exterior, especially that sill. The King is dead, RIP Gen1 Meh __________________ Disclaimer: This post represents the official views of the voices in my head at the time of posting. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133311 I'm only here for the biscuits

11-19-2020, 12:32 AM	#341
Cal3000 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: Panda FR-S Location: Corona, California Posts: 531 Thanks: 297 Thanked 377 Times in 161 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I really don't think the engine will be that bad. Intake, exhaust, headers and an E85 tune will more than likely make you a healthy 250whp. You can only reach those numbers on Gen 1 with FI. __________________ Vortech SC on 9psi Pulley, Invidia Catless Front Pipe, Invidia N1 Catback Exhaust 242whp/197ft-lb on Mustang Dyno (91 octane water) 284whp/223ft-lb on Mustang Dyno (E85) Delicious Tuning

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11-19-2020, 01:53 AM	#350
Incursus Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: Eh? Idk Location: Tennessee Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I totally just found this old account to chime in on the hype/disappointment and say I'll probably order the first one that comes to my store. I'd much rather have a wing vs that duckbill, but the exterior didn't bother me after 5pm. Couple of things I'm waiting on: Please god let there be some crazy colors. World Rally is a nice go-to, but I'm hoping for yellow and even the orange from the Crosstrek. How much will it cost? I can pretty much order a 2020 limited on the website for $32K and have the small stuff I want. (cargo mat, dim mirror, short throw). I'd hate to see this one jump much more past the $33-34K territory before I add in the junk.

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