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Old 08-21-2013, 04:13 PM   #1457
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Are you no longer using a second charger? Did it not work out?
No still have the second recharger but this one doesn't have DR whereas the single recharger did have the DR input.

Second recharger works lovely. Everything gets up to temp so quick and there is always full boost avail.

He just didn't happen to have a controller around at the time that had the DR input.

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Well guys since i couldnt share the dyno with you today i thought i would record a couple 4th gear acceleration runs.

It was feeling especially strong today even though it was almost 30 degrees C.

The first is in MPH the rest are in KM/H

Note how fast the recharge comes back to completely full on the right. Damn this thing flys on the highway now!

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-AmRzXnKso"]Electric supercharged FRS brz 4th gear mph - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTEAAM55aBA"]Electric supercharged frs 4th gear - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgI2vQ6XO-Y"]Electric supercharged FRS 4th gear accel - YouTube[/ame]
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:25 PM   #1459
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Well guys since i couldnt share the dyno with you today i thought i would record a couple 4th gear acceleration runs.

It was feeling especially strong today even though it was almost 30 degrees C.

The first is in MPH the rest are in KM/H

Note how fast the recharge comes back to completely full on the right. Damn this thing flys on the highway now!





My car N/a seemed way faster then this.
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Old 08-21-2013, 07:45 PM   #1460
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Take a video for us then please. I would love to see it

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Old 08-21-2013, 07:52 PM   #1461
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I really want to see something that doesn't involve setting a flag in the ECU. No trace for dealer visits...
Easy. Relocate the map and use something like tje honda guys used before tuning was available. Basically a small 1 way valve.
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Old 08-21-2013, 08:09 PM   #1462
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My car N/a seemed way faster then this.
I mean I walked away from a full exhaust FRS by 10 cars from the bottom to the top of third.

My altitude is quite a factor though. If you had a full exhaust e85 FRS at sea level its possible that you could be as fast on the top end but if you added the electric charger you would be way way faster.

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I mean I walked away from a full exhaust FRS by 10 cars from the bottom to the top of third.

My altitude is quite a factor though. If you had a full exhaust e85 FRS at sea level its possible that you could be as fast on the top end but if you added the electric charger you would be way way faster.

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My car is charged now (innovte) and makes at about + 40TQ + 40 more WHP.... I lol at this. If you going to spend the money spend it right. also makes way more torque and HP from 2k-redline.

Before my charger my car sat at 191WHP 150TQ with full exhaust + tune on 92. Rev'd way faster then that. (at least 140 WHTQ across the rev range no funny business)

This doesn't impress me much since you lose so much Torque after 5k RPMS (the rev range you stay in most if your actually driving the car) cool you picked up low end torque but thats about it. Money could be spent on more reliable solutions.

Your set up must feel like it falls on its face the higher you rev it.



^ This is how 5lb's of boost should look like.


Your dyno vs my exhaust + tune dyno






I hope you didn't spend to much on all that electrical stuff.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:00 PM   #1464
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My car is charged now (innovte) and makes at about + 40TQ + 40 more WHP.... I lol at this. If you going to spend the money spend it right. also makes way more torque and HP from 2k-redline.

Before my charger my car sat at 191WHP 150TQ with full exhaust + tune on 92. Rev'd way faster then that. (at least 140 WHTQ across the rev range no funny business)

This doesn't impress me much since you lose so much Torque after 5k RPMS (the rev range you stay in most if your actually driving the car) cool you picked up low end torque but thats about it. Money could be spent on more reliable solutions.

Your set up must feel like it falls on its face the higher you rev it.



^ This is how 5lb's of boost should look like.


Your dyno vs my exhaust + tune dyno






I hope you didn't spend to much on all that electrical stuff.
So you're trying to say that you spent ~4500 more and you made exactly 35 hp more and 10ft/pd more peak?

This kit is 1500 bucks that i currently have on.... by your mod list i count over 6000 in power mods if you did the install and tuning yourself.

I make peak power at 7000 just like you.... does yours fall flat on its face?? Im confused here? Yes this system makes less power but that is expected.

I have no supporting mods, no front pipe, no overpipe, no exaust, no intake and no water meth.

This is a stock car, bolt on and go in 30 minutes.... i almost laugh when i say that because its just rudiculous.

I'm sorry that you cant see the value in spending a little and getting alot

Its actually funny as our graphs are almost the identical curve from 2500RPM to redline.... yes mine tapers off more obviously, but fall flat on its face in nothing to describe peak power at 7000 rpm.


Also, your's doesnt APPEAR to decline as much as your scale is 500 on HP and TQ

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Old 08-21-2013, 11:09 PM   #1465
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My car is charged now (innovte) and makes at about + 40TQ + 40 more WHP.... I lol at this. If you going to spend the money spend it right. also makes way more torque and HP from 2k-redline.

Before my charger my car sat at 191WHP 150TQ with full exhaust + tune on 92. Rev'd way faster then that. (at least 140 WHTQ across the rev range no funny business)

This doesn't impress me much since you lose so much Torque after 5k RPMS (the rev range you stay in most if your actually driving the car) cool you picked up low end torque but thats about it. Money could be spent on more reliable solutions.

Your set up must feel like it falls on its face the higher you rev it.

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I hope you didn't spend to much on all that electrical stuff.
Maybe read the thread, you are making yourself look like a moron. Why did you spend all that money to make 240whp? You could have bought a turbo kit and made 100whp more for about 1k extra... See how this game works?

He has stated multiple times there is about $1500 in the whole setup.
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:09 PM   #1466
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I think NickFRS is just a little butthurt that he spent lots more $$$$$ to basically get the same results you did @fenton
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This would be a more comparable example i think.

This is Edmunds third party dyno. Stock and then supercharged the next day.

Even THIS setup is more than double the price without installation.

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Is that $1500 before a tune?
Yes it is. Tune is 100(brzedit) and cable is tactrix or something like that if you want it.

Our tuner here actually gave the base file to ThaTruth in the states but he wanted to use ecutek
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My car is charged now (innovte) and makes at about + 40TQ + 40 more WHP.... I lol at this. If you going to spend the money spend it right. also makes way more torque and HP from 2k-redline.

Before my charger my car sat at 191WHP 150TQ with full exhaust + tune on 92. Rev'd way faster then that. (at least 140 WHTQ across the rev range no funny business)

This doesn't impress me much since you lose so much Torque after 5k RPMS (the rev range you stay in most if your actually driving the car) cool you picked up low end torque but thats about it. Money could be spent on more reliable solutions.

Your set up must feel like it falls on its face the higher you rev it.



^ This is how 5lb's of boost should look like.


Your dyno vs my exhaust + tune dyno






I hope you didn't spend to much on all that electrical stuff.
Nick now come on, why you want to hate. I drove DarrenDriven's car last week with the Innocate SC. The setup is sweet. Yes, we know you have the WMI and Innovate SC and you will make great power, but lets be realistic some people just are not going to drop that much coin in their setups. When Greg Cosmer, part owner at PRE, saw the setup over the weekend at Cars and Coffee he was impressed. Personally, i have been toying with doing a duel Innovate and ESC setup in conjuction with PRE. Once I get the Car tune in the next week or so we can meet up at PIR and do a couple of drags.

Lets show some respect and to each their own.
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