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eric6 · 03-07-2014, 09:52 PM

My name is Eric, and I am located in Phoenix, AZ. Moved out here recently since graduating with my bachelor's in mechanical engineering and certificate in motorsports. I've worked for Indy Car and now currently work for C&R Racing as a design engineer and salesman. I design small things with engineering buddies on the side for fun but progress comes slow

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First night I received shipment thanks to Clint @ Heuberger.

Splitter designed and built. It now completely reduces the effects of lift at 100mph and creates downforce, a very good thing.

CFD and FEA on splitter showing downforce at 100 MPH.

Next up is an air oil separator that features an actual filtering element. No steel wool, meshed screens, or only baffling here. This filter is capable of flowing 47 SCFM at 100psig, way more than needed.

From there, I'm not sure where I will go...

Project Car:
93 MR2 Turbo - Heavily modified, everything designed and built by myself. It is a money pit x's 100!

Past Car:
Evo 8.5 - 360 awhp DD before the BRZ

GSX-R 750 - I need another bike

Hopefully more parts to go on this car soon, but it is the DD so its hard to justify. Plus its amazingly fun to drive, even though it feels under powered.

trd_kid · 03-08-2014, 12:23 AM

wish you had a fr-s in hopes you could make us a front splitter :/ lol

eric6 · 03-08-2014, 03:02 AM

Aren't they very very similar? I looked under one at the mall the other day and it looked the same. I guess I just need to find a local frs to try it on!

Jesse@JDLAutodesign · 03-08-2014, 03:52 AM

Welcome to Phoenix! Cool stuff...my brother's an engineer also, i know how you guys are :P . Can't wait to see what you build next!

ToyoburuBRZ · 03-08-2014, 08:17 AM

Looks great! I work as an automotive engineer up in Canada. How did you determine the mounting hole locations for the splitter? Do you have a CAD model of the car or did you just measure it? And what material are you making it out of now?

I've been looking for a CAD model for a while now with no luck of finding one that won't cost me $100 bucks.

eric6 · 03-08-2014, 02:11 PM

Haha, yes Jesse, us engineers are messed up in the head. I need to stop by your shop someday, you guys build some nice looking manifolds.

We have a cad model but nothing accurate enough to get mounting holes. Those were all measured by hand and refined through revisions. The cad model was used to get the basic shape of the splitter. We had to pay for the model unfortunately.

ToyoburuBRZ · 03-08-2014, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric6

We had to pay for the model unfortunately.

Where did you get your model/how much was it?

eric6 · 03-09-2014, 09:10 PM

Made a quick video

... [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLwSrouI71U"]Splitter R&D - YouTube[/ame]

Hopefully I'll start breaking the welder out for new parts soon, just been swamped with work.

*KID* · 03-09-2014, 10:34 PM

That looks awesome. Make me one

ToyoburuBRZ · 03-09-2014, 11:16 PM

That looks great. What did you make it out of?

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King Tut · 03-10-2014, 11:39 AM

So when is the C&R radiator going to be out for the BRZ?

eric6 · 03-10-2014, 02:25 PM

We have already built a few for race teams, the issue is pricing.

I want to build a stock replacing radiator with a heat exchanger (engine oil cooler) in the drivers side end tank. The issue is, with two fans and a direct bolt in component, you're looking at over $1,500 or more for the whole unit. Don't get me wrong, it will look amazing and cool just as well as it looks, but not many people are willing to spend that dime, even when they're over heating. If the right company wants to pursue this, by all means contact me at erich@crracing.com. I haven't pursued it for this exact reason... (THIS IS NOT ADVERTISING!!! This is my own thread not a thread for C&R Racing!)

When the time comes to turbo my car, which it will, I will likely be going through work to buy the set-up explained above. At that point I may try to see if a group buy is possible, but I am not remotely close to that point yet.

King Tut · 03-10-2014, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric6

We have already built a few for race teams, the issue is pricing.

I want to build a stock replacing radiator with a heat exchanger (engine oil cooler) in the drivers side end tank. The issue is, with two fans and a direct bolt in component, you're looking at over $1,500 or more for the whole unit. Don't get me wrong, it will look amazing and cool just as well as it looks, but not many people are willing to spend that dime, even when they're over heating. If the right company wants to pursue this, by all means contact me at erich@crracing.com. I haven't pursued it for this exact reason... (THIS IS NOT ADVERTISING!!! This is my own thread not a thread for C&R Racing!)

When the time comes to turbo my car, which it will, I will likely be going through work to buy the set-up explained above. At that point I may try to see if a group buy is possible, but I am not remotely close to that point yet.

Many owners have been willing to spend $900 on a radiator and oil cooler solution. I would think plenty would be willing to spend the extra $600 to get the C&R name.

eric6 · 03-10-2014, 03:37 PM

Time will tell. Thanks for the vote though. Not many people know of C&R Racing in the aftermarket world.

03-07-2014, 09:52 PM	#1
eric6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 93 MR2 Turbo; 2014 BRZ Location: United States Posts: 328 Thanks: 143 Thanked 492 Times in 193 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Eric's BRZ - A motorsports engineers perspective My name is Eric, and I am located in Phoenix, AZ. Moved out here recently since graduating with my bachelor's in mechanical engineering and certificate in motorsports. I've worked for Indy Car and now currently work for C&R Racing as a design engineer and salesman. I design small things with engineering buddies on the side for fun but progress comes slow . First night I received shipment thanks to Clint @ Heuberger. Splitter designed and built. It now completely reduces the effects of lift at 100mph and creates downforce, a very good thing. CFD and FEA on splitter showing downforce at 100 MPH. Next up is an air oil separator that features an actual filtering element. No steel wool, meshed screens, or only baffling here. This filter is capable of flowing 47 SCFM at 100psig, way more than needed. From there, I'm not sure where I will go... Project Car: 93 MR2 Turbo - Heavily modified, everything designed and built by myself. It is a money pit x's 100! Past Car: Evo 8.5 - 360 awhp DD before the BRZ GSX-R 750 - I need another bike Hopefully more parts to go on this car soon, but it is the DD so its hard to justify. Plus its amazingly fun to drive, even though it feels under powered. Last edited by eric6; 01-13-2015 at 12:16 AM.

03-09-2014, 10:34 PM	#9
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03-09-2014, 11:16 PM	#10
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03-10-2014, 11:39 AM	#11
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03-08-2014, 03:02 AM	#3
eric6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 93 MR2 Turbo; 2014 BRZ Location: United States Posts: 328 Thanks: 143 Thanked 492 Times in 193 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Aren't they very very similar? I looked under one at the mall the other day and it looked the same. I guess I just need to find a local frs to try it on!

03-08-2014, 03:52 AM	#4
Jesse@JDLAutodesign Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Raven Black FRS Location: Phx AZ Posts: 601 Thanks: 56 Thanked 680 Times in 258 Posts Mentioned: 22 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Welcome to Phoenix! Cool stuff...my brother's an engineer also, i know how you guys are :P . Can't wait to see what you build next!

03-08-2014, 08:17 AM	#5
ToyoburuBRZ Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: Black BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 438 Thanks: 116 Thanked 144 Times in 105 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Looks great! I work as an automotive engineer up in Canada. How did you determine the mounting hole locations for the splitter? Do you have a CAD model of the car or did you just measure it? And what material are you making it out of now? I've been looking for a CAD model for a while now with no luck of finding one that won't cost me $100 bucks.

03-08-2014, 02:11 PM	#6
eric6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 93 MR2 Turbo; 2014 BRZ Location: United States Posts: 328 Thanks: 143 Thanked 492 Times in 193 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Haha, yes Jesse, us engineers are messed up in the head. I need to stop by your shop someday, you guys build some nice looking manifolds. We have a cad model but nothing accurate enough to get mounting holes. Those were all measured by hand and refined through revisions. The cad model was used to get the basic shape of the splitter. We had to pay for the model unfortunately.

03-09-2014, 09:10 PM	#8
eric6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 93 MR2 Turbo; 2014 BRZ Location: United States Posts: 328 Thanks: 143 Thanked 492 Times in 193 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Made a quick video ... [ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLwSrouI71U"]Splitter R&D - YouTube[/ame] Hopefully I'll start breaking the welder out for new parts soon, just been swamped with work.

03-10-2014, 02:25 PM	#12
eric6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 93 MR2 Turbo; 2014 BRZ Location: United States Posts: 328 Thanks: 143 Thanked 492 Times in 193 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	We have already built a few for race teams, the issue is pricing. I want to build a stock replacing radiator with a heat exchanger (engine oil cooler) in the drivers side end tank. The issue is, with two fans and a direct bolt in component, you're looking at over $1,500 or more for the whole unit. Don't get me wrong, it will look amazing and cool just as well as it looks, but not many people are willing to spend that dime, even when they're over heating. If the right company wants to pursue this, by all means contact me at erich@crracing.com. I haven't pursued it for this exact reason... (THIS IS NOT ADVERTISING!!! This is my own thread not a thread for C&R Racing!) When the time comes to turbo my car, which it will, I will likely be going through work to buy the set-up explained above. At that point I may try to see if a group buy is possible, but I am not remotely close to that point yet.

03-10-2014, 03:37 PM	#14
eric6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 93 MR2 Turbo; 2014 BRZ Location: United States Posts: 328 Thanks: 143 Thanked 492 Times in 193 Posts Mentioned: 27 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Time will tell. Thanks for the vote though. Not many people know of C&R Racing in the aftermarket world.

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