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Old 08-10-2022, 11:20 AM   #155
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I can say pretty much 100% for sure that Ukraine is war torn.

Have been following things daily since Feb 24 and I have a few Youtubers I follow daily (Joe Blogs, The Enforcer, Jake Broe, Crux, and tons of stuff from the Ukraine govt). Sure, they use some propaganda to keep morale and play down the military losses, but probably the largest majority of the atrocities done by Russians are true. Most Russian soldiers come from very poor isolated places like Buratia and are comprised of ethnic Mongols, as well as Chechnya, Wagner group mercenaries etc. They get them all angry and hating the west by treating people of lesser rank like garbage that should die. That is why they kill dogs for example to eat. They feel inferior and the o ly empowerment they have is guns and weapons, so sometimes they misuse them. From Russias perspective they are maximizing effectiveness through terror. It's also part of the reason they rape torture and kill civilians and torture and castrate captured soldiers. God knows what atrocities were done to the ~50 Azov soldiers before they were blown up in their POW prison cells. The people of the so called DPR were demanding public executions.

Sorry, had to get it off my chest. Very OT, but I hope people don't turn a blind eye to things as apparently the majority of Russians do. They just want their country to win, and everything else is meaningless to them, defeat is the only language they understand.
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I can say pretty much 100% for sure that Ukraine is war torn.

Have been following things daily since Feb 24 and I have a few Youtubers I follow daily (Joe Blogs, The Enforcer, Jake Broe, Crux, and tons of stuff from the Ukraine govt). Sure, they use some propaganda to keep morale and play down the military losses, but probably the largest majority of the atrocities done by Russians are true. Most Russian soldiers come from very poor isolated places like Buratia and are comprised of ethnic Mongols, as well as Chechnya, Wagner group mercenaries etc. They get them all angry and hating the west by treating people of lesser rank like garbage that should die. That is why they kill dogs for example to eat. They feel inferior and the o ly empowerment they have is guns and weapons, so sometimes they misuse them. From Russias perspective they are maximizing effectiveness through terror. It's also part of the reason they rape torture and kill civilians and torture and castrate captured soldiers. God knows what atrocities were done to the ~50 Azov soldiers before they were blown up in their POW prison cells. The people of the so called DPR were demanding public executions.

Sorry, had to get it off my chest. Very OT, but I hope people don't turn a blind eye to things as apparently the majority of Russians do. They just want their country to win, and everything else is meaningless to them, defeat is the only language they understand.
Don't let him suck you into a political debate. Not only will most of his points be nauseating you risk a ban.
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Old 08-10-2022, 12:49 PM   #157
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Ahhh there it is.
Doesn't matter what any individual is doing. The past two years have backed up the courts. This is a fact not a conspiracy theory.



And what is up with the quotation marks around war torn? You think that is fake as well?
I'm not denying it as fact. I'm not allowing it to be used as justification to violate my charter rights.

When was the last time all the elites and hollyweird types flew into a battle zone for selfies with their head money launderer?
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When was the last time all the elites and hollyweird types flew into a battle zone for selfies with their head money launderer?
You wouldnt want to be elected president of a country that was already at war for ~6 years ongoing at the beginning of your term with potential for massive escalation. See how you would defend your citizens from Russia. Is it a job you are envious of?
As an analogy, imagine you were diagnosed with stage 4 cancer, but you also have very capable doctors and you were otherwise healthy prior to diagnosis. That's how it's been for Ukraine. But of course you'll go back to some financial conspiracy in a country that voted to crack down on fraud.
Are you an Amnesty International supporter? Or a Russia proxy? There's literally millions of those trolling online these days, bot driven on huge servers all over the place including inside Ukraine, which got busted recently.
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"Elected". That's rich.
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"Elected". That's rich.
Ah, you have privy info from the international observers for the last 2 national elections, do you???
So, let me guess, you believe the CIA put Yanukovich and then Zelinsky in power, right?
How is it that the federal government allows someone with so much clandestine knowledge as you to speak so freely? lol

I'm guessing you're way over your head with this one but if you want to discuss it privately, this is not a topic that I "once overed".

Incidentally, from my experience people that always seem to have the inside scoop and clandestine knowledge online typically end up getting singled out as heretics if not pariahs on social media platforms.
Just pointing this out if you prefer not to be frowned upon. It sounds like you might deny the Ukrainian people assistance resisting a violent invasion or at least throw a wrench in the process based on your alleged "knowledge".. You don't trust anything that involves big money...Incidentally, Ukrainians do not want to kill Russians, but the cancer analogy I used previously is quite accurate. Either you are a sovereign nation or you allow yourself to be rolled over and erased from history.
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Ah, you have privy info from the international observers for the last 2 national elections, do you???
So, let me guess, you believe the CIA put Yanukovich and then Zelinsky in power, right?
How is it that the federal government allows someone with so much clandestine knowledge as you to speak so freely? lol

I'm guessing you're way over your head with this one but if you want to discuss it privately, this is not a topic that I "once overed".

Incidentally, from my experience people that always seem to have the inside scoop and clandestine knowledge online typically end up getting singled out as heretics if not pariahs on social media platforms.
Just pointing this out if you prefer not to be frowned upon. It sounds like you might deny the Ukrainian people assistance resisting a violent invasion or at least throw a wrench in the process based on your alleged "knowledge".. You don't trust anything that involves big money...Incidentally, Ukrainians do not want to kill Russians, but the cancer analogy I used previously is quite accurate. Either you are a sovereign nation or you allow yourself to be rolled over and erased from history.
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If they're fighting with Nazi's (Azov Battalion) then I don't shed a single tear.
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If they're fighting with Nazi's (Azov Battalion) then I don't shed a single tear.
You are ignorant beyond belief, my friend. Perhaps my saying that will cause your awakening, though I highly doubt it.


I guess the Russian propaganda manages to get through to really weak westerners despite their free access to so many different international news sources. Pathetic.

Perhaps you should fight the Nazis in your head.
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well, this thread went way into area51 real quick...

it's all a conspiracy. there's warehouses full of toilet paper and car parts. they're just holding on to all of it for the last 2 years to drive the price up
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Hey, if Tokay444 is in decent health and under 65 he can go fight the Ukrainians for Russia. They'll offer you a 200,000 ruble signing bonus, that's around $4000 usd except they're counting on you being cannon fodder before the end of the first month. Its the same with most all non Russian ethnicities in the service. Either way you will never receive the money. Also you can receive a $2500/month (125,000 ruble) salary during your contract. Since the average Russian makes less than 1/4 the average American, it will be the equivalent to making $10K/month if you move to Russia. Please do.
Fortunately the Ukrainians haven't been torturing, or castrating and/or killing their captors for social media, so you stand a chance for survival if you hold up a white flag.
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Hey, if Tokay444 is in decent health and under 65 he can go fight the Ukrainians for Russia. They'll offer you a 200,000 ruble signing bonus, that's around $4000 usd except they're counting on you being cannon fodder before the end of the first month. Its the same with most all non Russian ethnicities in the service. Either way you will never receive the money. Also you can receive a $2500/month (175,000 ruble) salary during your contract. Since the average Russian makes less than 1/4 the average American, it will be the equivalent to making $10K/month if you move to Russia. Please do.
Fortunately the Ukrainians haven't been torturing, or castrating and/or killing their captors for social media, so you stand a chance for survival if you hold up a white flag.
I’d be happiest if the commies and the Nazis wiped each other completely off the map without using any of my tax dollars to funnel back into the Biden’s pockets.
“Ignorant beyond belief” he says. They’re literal Nazis who absolutely have been torturing their captives.
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so does rule #10 no longer exist?
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so does rule #10 no longer exist?
Have to be paying $200/month for the rules to be enforced
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a little light-hearted toeing of the line is one thing, but the troops were assembled, stormed past the line, and are attempting to torch the castle...
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