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Old 07-22-2019, 08:26 AM   #58409
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You are in automotive parts manufacturing?
It meets all the same standards.


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nope.

I already know what you do so I can't play.
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A Florida man...

Didn't even need a link. Just saying "a Florida man..." is a story all on it's own.
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I bet you can figure it out. I'll give you a couple of hints.

1. it's one of very few industries where having a felony conviction an/or several DUIs is not a disqualification for working in the field.

2. until recently NO ONE would go to college to work in this industry. most people in management or ownership worked in the field for many years.

3. even still I'd say 99% of people working in this industry(field or office) didn't get into it on purpose. something else didn't work out so they ended up in it.

like myself, I was a lazy screw up right after high school. I got in because I lost my job and couldn't find anything else. then after a few years I started making some pretty good money. then before I knew it I was making so much(nothing to brag about) there is now no way I can leave and go do something else making what I make now. in fact there's a very good chance that I'll take a little pay cut with my first job after graduation.
Pimping ain't easy.

Surprisingly, a lot of blue collar jobs pay a lot better than a lot of white collar jobs. That's not usually the case, but it's often the case.
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Didn't even need a link. Just saying "a Florida man..." is a story all on it's own.
That's Hum and the toddler, right??
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More and more dangerous ideas keep coming to mind. I gotta stop thinking about cars...
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Just remember not to get all pissy when people say some things are a bad idea!
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Don’t think about them as bad ideas. Just do it and think about them as great stories you can share here for our amusement
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Donít think about them as bad ideas. Just do it and think about them as great stories you can share here for our amusement
I could list them, but they are wordy, and all my friends already think I'm indecisive (I don't, I just like ideas), so I'm not sure I want to give you guys headaches with them.

Maybe I should make a thread? (That sounds like a worse idea)
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Pimping ain't easy.

Surprisingly, a lot of blue collar jobs pay a lot better than a lot of white collar jobs. That's not usually the case, but it's often the case.
yeah plumbers, electricians and the like can make very good money. I have no problem paying to make sure I don't end up like Harvey Dent in the first Batman movie or be elbow deep in poop.

most of these guys make crap which is part of the problem. hard work that doesn't pay chit isn't going to attract top talent. I'm just glad I'm not in the field. got a thermostat in my office which happens to be the largest in the building. but that's just a condition of my location and position not status or anything of importance.
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yeah plumbers, electricians and the like can make very good money. I have no problem paying to make sure I don't end up like Harvey Dent in the first Batman movie or be elbow deep in poop.

most of these guys make crap which is part of the problem. hard work that doesn't pay chit isn't going to attract top talent. I'm just glad I'm not in the field. got a thermostat in my office which happens to be the largest in the building. but that's just a condition of my location and position not status or anything of importance.
I don't know about the US but here any trade that requires a license (Auto tech, electrician, plumber, gas fitter, etc) requires as much or more education and training as many white collar jobs. If you spend 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars working through an apprenticeship to obtain a journyman license why would you expect to make less than somebody in an office?


Now, if anybody can't be bothered to go through the process to get to that level and spend their whole working career as a helper then ya they are not going to make much. Sort of like the white collar guys that get a community collage diploma in philosophy or something and then complain they can't get an upper management job after working someplace for 2 years.
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I don't know about the US but here any trade that requires a license (Auto tech, electrician, plumber, gas fitter, etc) requires as much or more education and training as many white collar jobs. If you spend 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars working through an apprenticeship to obtain a journyman license why would you expect to make less than somebody in an office?


Now, if anybody can't be bothered to go through the process to get to that level and spend their whole working career as a helper then ya they are not going to make much. Sort of like the white collar guys that get a community collage diploma in philosophy or something and then complain they can't get an upper management job after working someplace for 2 years.
I'm not sure how all trades work but you need a license to be a lot of things like a plumber and an electrician. hell ever a barber needs one. :p however there are not such requirements in my companies field.

*Hint: we are a very very large subcontractor.

but trade schools are a lot cheaper and most offer a pretty good job placement program.

but here a lot of people that can't be bothered to try and become more than a minimum wage helper will just protest in the streets for more money. that's the closest thing to effort they will ever show. they're basically one side of the same coin as a philo major that thinks they are entitled to a six figure job when they're barley qualified to be a barista.
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I don't know about the US but here any trade that requires a license (Auto tech, electrician, plumber, gas fitter, etc) requires as much or more education and training as many white collar jobs. If you spend 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars working through an apprenticeship to obtain a journyman license why would you expect to make less than somebody in an office?


Now, if anybody can't be bothered to go through the process to get to that level and spend their whole working career as a helper then ya they are not going to make much. Sort of like the white collar guys that get a community collage diploma in philosophy or something and then complain they can't get an upper management job after working someplace for 2 years.
I took a couple ASE auto classes in community college before getting my BA. The intellectual difficulty of getting an ASE certification was much, much lower than the difficulty of getting an AA. I don't mean to demean union training. It absolutely has value. I just don't think it's quite the same as college classes.
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