BRZ/GR86 driving differences

[ZDan]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Any difference in throttle response would be from tuning unless its a placebo effect from the chassis setup?

Easy enough to tune the response from the drive-by-wire throttle and command more aggressive opening of the throttle plate. Personally I find the throttle response in the current-gen BRZ to be aggressive enough. Unlike my 987.2 Cayman 2.9! It had "sport chrono (+?)", and god forbid if I forgot to mash the "sport" button. Without it the car felt like a slug in "normal" around-town driving. Even in sport mode throttle response was lazy and boring, car felt slow as a Prius around town. BRZ throttle response was downright jumpy in comparison!

[jordan7831]

Do the cars look completely CGI and out of Forza to anyone else? Or is it just me?

[boy_racer]

Originally Posted by jordan7831

Do the cars look completely CGI and out of Forza to anyone else? Or is it just me?

I had the same thought

[Blighty]

One thing I've noticed from the drive is that GR86 looks like a lower spec that we have yet seen.

The seats are all fabric, the sound generator isn't on (but may be switched off), plain interior door handles, missing seat warmers, plain stitching.

It could be prototype, but it could also reflect the bottom end car.

[mazeroni]

Originally Posted by Blighty

One thing I've noticed from the drive is that GR86 looks like a lower spec that we have yet seen.

The seats are all fabric, the sound generator isn't on (but may be switched off), plain interior door handles, missing seat warmers, plain stitching.

It could be prototype, but it could also reflect the bottom end car.

Fine by me. I've been concerned that they will simplify the range to basically fully loaded with AT or MT. If there is a base+MT then awesome. Although I quite enjoy keyless entry and start, but I'm okay losing that.

In fact, I'm a little salty about buttons littering my sterring wheel.

My Base MK6 GTI didn't have any buttons either.




Insert: Oh yea? No buttons!? Back in my day we didn't have...

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

Fine by me. I've been concerned that they will simplify the range to basically fully loaded with AT or MT. If there is a base+MT then awesome. Although I quite enjoy keyless entry and start, but I'm okay losing that.

In fact, I'm a little salty about buttons littering my sterring wheel.

My Base MK6 GTI didn't have any buttons either.




Insert: Oh yea? No buttons!? Back in my day we didn't have...

Ive come to like steering wheel buttons. And that mainly has to do with the location of the infotainment screen.

In my X1 the screen is high up and obviously controlled by Idrive. But my Scion IM is in the dash like the twins, but its kind of parallel with the steering wheel. Its actually NOT a good spot, continuously having to look down at it whereas the bimmer is in the sightline and i just need to glance right.

With the twins infotainment screen located somewhat similar to the as the iM, i would imagine the same issue will arise. And thats where the steering wheel buttons come in. I feel safer using it because changing songs and interacting with the screen takes my focus away from the road for quite a lot longer than i would like. Its almost like looking down at a phone while driving....

Obviously i cant tell if sitting lower down and having the center stack not as tall helps makes the sightlines any more paralell with where your eyes are, but that is my take on steering wheel buttons.

[Blighty]

Originally Posted by mazeroni

Fine by me. I've been concerned that they will simplify the range to basically fully loaded with AT or MT. If there is a base+MT then awesome. Although I quite enjoy keyless entry and start, but I'm okay losing that.

In fact, I'm a little salty about buttons littering my sterring wheel.

My Base MK6 GTI didn't have any buttons either.

Insert: Oh yea? No buttons!? Back in my day we didn't have...

Yeah I dont like buttons either, but they look like they control the dash display, so its probably standard on all specs now.

Last time around in aus Toyota released with two version. Base povo on 16"rims, and top spec with all the bells and whistles on 17"rims.

Subaru at that time only released one spec, bang in the middle. On 17"rims, but with no GPS or no climate control aircon - cant remember exactly, but it was missing some of the interior upgrades.

In Japan they also had a stripper model which I'm sure you know about, running 15"steel wheels and no paint.

[PandaEighty-Six]

Originally Posted by jordan7831

Do the cars look completely CGI and out of Forza to anyone else? Or is it just me?

The GR86 kind of does, though I'd like to see it in person and compared to other cars in traffic. I still think it looks good overall (save for the continuous line in the back, which I hope can be deleted) and the performance specs seem really promising.

[boy_racer]

That line in the back tailights could easily be used for whitelines or redlines taillights,like the original ae86.

[Sasquachulator]

So the one japanese video where they're actually driving the cars on the track.

I believe its mentioned that the GR86 feels like driving a GR car (GR Supra, GR Yaris)
While the BRZ feels like driving a Subaru car (Impreza, WRX, Levorg, STI)

SO i'd say the differentiation is pretty well done.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

So the one japanese video where they're actually driving the cars on the track.

I believe its mentioned that the GR86 feels like driving a GR car (GR Supra, GR Yaris)
While the BRZ feels like driving a Subaru car (Impreza, WRX, Levorg, STI)

SO i'd say the differentiation is pretty well done.

One is paid by Toyota and the other by Subaru. Lol.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

So the one japanese video where they're actually driving the cars on the track.

I believe its mentioned that the GR86 feels like driving a GR car (GR Supra, GR Yaris)
While the BRZ feels like driving a Subaru car (Impreza, WRX, Levorg, STI)

SO i'd say the differentiation is pretty well done.

Debadge the inside and blindfold them until they are in there and they probably couldn't tell you which badge they are driving.

[daiheadjai]

Originally Posted by boy_racer

That line in the back tailights could easily be used for whitelines or redlines taillights,like the original ae86.

That would be very cool - and they could embiggen that black line on the trunk under the ducktail to get that 80s bar across the trunk/should-be-hatch look.

[wbradley]

The first generation 2013 twins used the same dampers but a softer front spring rate was used in the Scion and 86. The end result being the BRZ was a bit more planted as you would want it on a track and the Scion and Toyota were more playful wanting to rotate more readily at lower speeds. For the track, the Subaru tuning is better but then not many people track stock cars repetitively.

All I would ever want from this platform is an updated one of these. The Corolla GTS and the MR2 both with the same 4AG engine were a hoot to drive, especially in the winter.