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Old 09-19-2016, 11:20 AM   #3963
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The resolution of the sandwich plate

Hey guys, so after a few months of struggling with kraftwerks sandwich plate, I took it upon myself to gather research of how to avoid using their plate due to the o-ring failing. This was rather difficult due to the fact that you needed the height to clear the oil cap and that you couldn't route hoses to the front of the car due to the pulley being in front. Here are a few pictures of what I came up with. Which is pretty much a DIY oil cooler for our kraftwerks kits.

Disclaimer, you will definitely need a 27mm THIN WALL socket. I BARELY got away with the standard 27mm or 1 and 1/16th inch socket by craftsmen. It slipped a lot, but it clicked to 25ftlbs.


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Perrin oil cap (low profile so that hoses would clear)
Perrin oil spacer (from their own specific oil cooler kit for our cars)
mocal thermostat (comes with the silver spacer and thermostat, comes with 2 o ring sealers)

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EDIT You also need to order 1 ES20. This is the oil extension bolt for the 1st spacer that goes to the block. It's a mocal part which you can get from Bat Inc. You will use this to thread the perrin spacer onto the block first. The other oil extension bolt will for the mocal themrostat and the mocal spacer comes with the mocal thermostat kit.


2 Mocal 1/2" BSP x -10 fitting (sold in pairs)
1 Mocal 90 Degree Socketless Push Lock Hose End -10AN- Titaniu m and Black Anodized Finish
1 Mocal 45 Degree Socketless Push Lock Hose End -10AN- Titaniu m and Black Anodized Finish
8 feet of -10 Aeroquip Socketless Hose, Black AER-FBN1000 (cut this in half 4 feet for hose length to have two hoses)

Oil cooler side:
1 Mocal Straight Socketless Push Lock Hose End -10AN- Titanium and Black Anodized Finish
1 Mocal 45 Degree Socketless Push Lock Hose End -10AN- Titaniu m and Black Anodized Finish (could probably use a 90 degree fitting and it would look better.





To route the hoses above, the hose on the right routes towards the area of the windshield washer fluid reservoir and goes the long way around. Connection on the thermostat is a 90 degree fitting. The connection on the oil cooler is a 45 degree fitting on the far left passenger side. This could probably use a 90 degree fitting instead, I didn't have one i just used what I had. The other hose on the left uses a 45 degree fitting on the thermostat and routes and loops around my flex fuel sensor and then hangs right underneath the the top of the bumper and then passes through where the intake pipe is at and goes down into the oil cooler with a straight fitting on the right side of the oil cooler.















Lastly, if you want to run oil sensors, use the galley plug on the block OR go buy a TRD brz/frs sandwich plate and JUST the mocal thermostat. Then buy 1 ES20 oil extension bolt. Thread the TRD sandwich plate on with the supplied bolt, then thread the mocal thermostat on with the ES20 bolt.

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Old 09-19-2016, 12:25 PM   #3964
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Any idea how much PSI in the CARB tune?


I believe all their documentation says ~9psi
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Old 09-21-2016, 01:18 PM   #3965
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Joining the club with a used C38 kit I purchased here - I think the answer is probably "no" but I want to confirm - I have a set of P&L catted headers that I really like, but think there may be clearance issues with the Kraftwerks crank adapter/pulley. Has anyone had success with this kit and the P&L header (or any other long tube header that runs up in front of the motor)? Thanks
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:36 AM   #3966
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Does anyone know if it is okay to run this kit on a completely stock f86 engine.
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Does anyone know if it is okay to run this kit on a completely stock f86 engine.
yep, many people do on completely stock otherwise car (not just engine)
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:13 AM   #3968
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Joining the club with a used C38 kit I purchased here - I think the answer is probably "no" but I want to confirm - I have a set of P&L catted headers that I really like, but think there may be clearance issues with the Kraftwerks crank adapter/pulley. Has anyone had success with this kit and the P&L header (or any other long tube header that runs up in front of the motor)? Thanks
you could measure but i doubt it'll fit
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Currently doing just that
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Currently doing just that
And how much horses are you pushing?
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251 whp 182wtq through the auto trans on their CARB tune on 92 octane. No need for more. It's fast enough when I need/want it.
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i see folks on here with c30 running on KW CARB tune.

is there anyone with c38 on CARB tune? did KW ever certified c38?
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I don't think there have been any updates in regards to the c38 kit. But i could be wrong.

I'm currently debating if I should bump up the power and run the 90mm pulley for my c38.. but it looks like to me people are sticking with the standard c38 pulley.
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Loud squeak at idle

Got 10k on the kit and it gradually started making this squeaking noise at idle. I also feel the spool noise has gotten louder too but I'm not sure and that doesn't bother me much. Anyone ever seen this?

FYI I'm on the original design smooth pulleys (I plan on getting the updated pulleys but I need to know if my blower is on its way out or not before I do) The car makes boost perfectly.

also no warranty or proof of purchase

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Got 10k on the kit and it gradually started making this squeaking noise at idle. I also feel the spool noise has gotten louder too but I'm not sure and that doesn't bother me much. Anyone ever seen this?

FYI I'm on the original design smooth pulleys (I plan on getting the updated pulleys but I need to know if my blower is on its way out or not before I do) The car makes boost perfectly.

also no warranty or proof of purchase


the noise could be due to failing bearing on some pulley, i would check the tensioner pulley first, take it out and check for play.
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Just for fun, I downloaded virtual dyno and did a 3rd gear pull... probably a little inaccurate since it asks to put in how much weight for the person and other objects in the car not related to the preloaded weight. My guess is a little over 300whp. Had this setup for almost two years now and has seen a year and a half of track season. The car recently just hit a little over 30k miles. So far a total of 3 broken belts due to poor measurement of first installation from instruction, a second belt broke due to wobbling pulleys, and a third broken belt due to the main supercharger pulley bolt snapping in half.




11-12psi depending on temperature
e80ish
invidia n1
tomei uel
tomei overpipe
stock front pipe
*exhaust leaks galore past o2 sensors that need to be fixed...*
700cc dw injectors
dw65c fuel pump
c38 kit

definitely a lot more room to grow with a dyno tune.

shout out to @moto-mike for an awesome etune
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