ECUTek Flash Points - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

zberz · 08-11-2020, 09:10 PM

I'm currently getting an error with ECUTek saying I don't have enough "flash points" to flash the base map from my tuner onto my car. I'm supposed to have a dyno appointment tomorrow.

I bought the ECUTek cable and license from ft86speedfactory in the "Tune Yourself" kit. Is there something else I need to buy? I honestly don't understand the ECUTek pricing system and ECUTek doesn't make it easy to purchase flash points.

Any advice?

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GreggVA · 08-11-2020, 09:59 PM

Takes 225 flash points for an FRS/BRZ

https://ecutek.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/...d-Flash-Points

zberz · 08-11-2020, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreggVA

Takes 225 flash points for an FRS/BR

https://ecutek.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/...d-Flash-Points

I understand, but I can't buy flash points without an account with ECUTek (which you apparently you have to "contact Sales" for) and I was under the impression that the license would let me flash the car.

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zberz · 08-11-2020, 10:06 PM

I guess I'm wondering why I paid ~$300 for a license that doesn't let me do anything. Again, I'm not 100% clear on how this works, but I thought the cable and license would let me tune the car. Either I didn't get a license (even though I paid for it), or I'm misunderstanding what I need to flash the ECU.

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DarkPira7e · 08-11-2020, 10:30 PM

Did you already have the cable and dongle, or did you buy them in the same transaction? You need to send them (Ft86speedfactory) your dongle ID and ask why there are no points.

How long have you had the data, and most importantly, where did the tuner get that basemap from?

zberz · 08-11-2020, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e

Did you already have the cable and dongle, or did you buy them in the same transaction? You need to send them (Ft86speedfactory) your dongle ID and ask why there are no points.

How long have you had the data, and most importantly, where did the tuner get that basemap from?

Already emailed ft86speedfactory . I have the cable and dongle (I bought them and the license in the same transaction), my understanding was that they just needed to register it online somehow for the license, but I can't currently flash my car.

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Drifter X · 08-12-2020, 01:41 AM

Have you tried updating the software? Same thing happened to me and I made it update and it saw I had the credits and allowed me to flash my base tune.

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Fred E · 08-12-2020, 08:09 AM

Have you used the "Apply License Update" feature in one of the menus? (sorry I can't remember which one) Clicking this will pull down flash points from the server that FT86SF should have loaded to your dongle upon your purchase of the kit/license.

zberz · 08-12-2020, 10:13 AM

Thanks for all the advice. I've tried updating everything I can, including the flash point update one, but nothing's working so far. I even called ECUTek, but they told me I had to deal with ft86speedfactory directly to have them apply the license.

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Kodename47 · 08-12-2020, 05:14 PM

The license is applied to the dongle by the seller, it's done by an online portal. Once that's done you use the EcuTek update to download that to the laptop and then you can flash the ECU. Basically you need ft86speedfactory to sort it out.

zberz · 08-12-2020, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kodename47

The license is applied to the dongle by the seller, it's done by an online portal. Once that's done you use the EcuTek update to download that to the laptop and then you can flash the ECU. Basically you need ft86speedfactory to sort it out.

Thanks. ECUTek explained that to me earlier, now I'm waiting ft86speedfactory to respond.

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FR-S2GT86 · 08-20-2020, 10:06 PM

Hmmmm....looks like I'm going to be in the same boat when I go to flash my ECU for it's Harrop base tune. I guess I need to contact Dynosty where I purchased the license, cable and dongle for my car. I also noticed in the EcuTek software on my PC that there weren't any flash points loaded onto my dongle, but I was putting this off for the time being until I was ready to install my supercharger.

So if we ordered the FR-S/BRZ/86 Tuning Package (that is advertised as FREE with purchase of the EcuTek hardware and license), are we still required to purchase and use flash points every time we want to flash an entirely new tune, or even make an adjustment to an existing tune?

That part has me confused, and I couldn't find anything on Dynosty or EcuTek's websites explaining the flash point requirements for the (free?) software in simple terms.

I do understand that the RaceRom package is a separate purchase from the package that I purchased, but do I also need to use flash points to flash the RaceRom as well? Sorry, for the questions, but this is very confusing.

CSG Mike · 08-20-2020, 10:30 PM

Each ECU only needs to be licensed once, and you can tune/alter/change/whatever it as many times as you'd like.

If you're still waiting for flash points, CSG can get you your flash points within a business day.

FR-S2GT86 · 08-20-2020, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Each ECU only needs to be licensed once, and you can tune/alter/change/whatever it as many times as you'd like.

If you're still waiting for flash points, CSG can get you your flash points within a business day.

But we have to PURCHASE those flash points from you, correct?

08-11-2020, 09:10 PM	#1
zberz Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2015 Lightning Red BRZ Location: U.S. Posts: 190 Thanks: 245 Thanked 131 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	ECUTek Flash Points I'm currently getting an error with ECUTek saying I don't have enough "flash points" to flash the base map from my tuner onto my car. I'm supposed to have a dyno appointment tomorrow. I bought the ECUTek cable and license from ft86speedfactory in the "Tune Yourself" kit. Is there something else I need to buy? I honestly don't understand the ECUTek pricing system and ECUTek doesn't make it easy to purchase flash points. Any advice? Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

08-11-2020, 09:59 PM	#2
GreggVA Junior member Join Date: Aug 2020 Drives: 2013 FRS Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Takes 225 flash points for an FRS/BRZ https://ecutek.zendesk.com/hc/en-gb/...d-Flash-Points __________________ 2013 Scion FR-S M/T Edelbrock Supercharger & JDL header Bilstein dampers/ Swift springs TRD spoiler Sparco drift 17x8 with 245/40R17 tires

08-12-2020, 05:14 PM	#10
Kodename47 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: UK GT86 Location: UK Posts: 3,040 Thanks: 185 Thanked 1,629 Times in 1,112 Posts Mentioned: 155 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	The license is applied to the dongle by the seller, it's done by an online portal. Once that's done you use the EcuTek update to download that to the laptop and then you can flash the ECU. Basically you need ft86speedfactory to sort it out. __________________ .: Stealth 86 :. Abbey Motorsport/K47 Tuned Sprintex 210 Supercharger Kodename 47 DJ: Soundcloud / Instagram / Facebook

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zberz Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2015 Lightning Red BRZ Location: U.S. Posts: 190 Thanks: 245 Thanked 131 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I guess I'm wondering why I paid ~$300 for a license that doesn't let me do anything. Again, I'm not 100% clear on how this works, but I thought the cable and license would let me tune the car. Either I didn't get a license (even though I paid for it), or I'm misunderstanding what I need to flash the ECU. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

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DarkPira7e Rust bucket enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 2013 Turbo Firestorm FRS Location: Vermont Posts: 3,933 Thanks: 3,200 Thanked 4,095 Times in 2,045 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Did you already have the cable and dongle, or did you buy them in the same transaction? You need to send them (Ft86speedfactory) your dongle ID and ask why there are no points. How long have you had the data, and most importantly, where did the tuner get that basemap from?

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Fred E Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Drives: WRB BRZ Location: New Jersey Posts: 261 Thanks: 83 Thanked 150 Times in 96 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Have you used the "Apply License Update" feature in one of the menus? (sorry I can't remember which one) Clicking this will pull down flash points from the server that FT86SF should have loaded to your dongle upon your purchase of the kit/license.

08-12-2020, 10:13 AM	#9
zberz Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2015 Lightning Red BRZ Location: U.S. Posts: 190 Thanks: 245 Thanked 131 Times in 66 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Thanks for all the advice. I've tried updating everything I can, including the flash point update one, but nothing's working so far. I even called ECUTek, but they told me I had to deal with ft86speedfactory directly to have them apply the license. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk

08-20-2020, 10:06 PM	#12
FR-S2GT86 Master Collaborator Join Date: Nov 2019 Drives: Was '15 FR-S, 6MT, Now '15 GT86 Location: West Virginia, USA Posts: 1,395 Thanks: 208 Thanked 985 Times in 597 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hmmmm....looks like I'm going to be in the same boat when I go to flash my ECU for it's Harrop base tune. I guess I need to contact Dynosty where I purchased the license, cable and dongle for my car. I also noticed in the EcuTek software on my PC that there weren't any flash points loaded onto my dongle, but I was putting this off for the time being until I was ready to install my supercharger. So if we ordered the FR-S/BRZ/86 Tuning Package (that is advertised as FREE with purchase of the EcuTek hardware and license), are we still required to purchase and use flash points every time we want to flash an entirely new tune, or even make an adjustment to an existing tune? That part has me confused, and I couldn't find anything on Dynosty or EcuTek's websites explaining the flash point requirements for the (free?) software in simple terms. I do understand that the RaceRom package is a separate purchase from the package that I purchased, but do I also need to use flash points to flash the RaceRom as well? Sorry, for the questions, but this is very confusing.

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