Car Shopping - What am I missing

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

I really am down to two cars:

14' BRZ and the 14' Fiesta ST.

Just drove the Fiesta, what a blast. This is tough.

I've heard good things about the Fiesta ST. There's a good comparison of those two cars here:

http://www.autoguide.com/car-compari...-brz-3720.html

[f0rge]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Interesting. Was it an Auto? The AT was detuned to ~190 hp with the MT coming in at ~230 hp (for at most 200 lbs more), by some counts it's faster than the Toyobaru and at least equivalent by most counts, of course any engine can feel slow if it's not in the powerband.

It was a manual, but I had two other people in the car. It was a nice car, but the rotary is definitely stranger than a boxer.

[mines13]

I also enjoyed the Fiesta ST. It is truly as close to USDM ITR as you can get in a new vehicle, albeit with more torque and marginally more weight. The ride is stiff but not abusive. I found the handling excellent over my 20 minute drive, especially considering the lack of a physical LSD. I would buy one as a daily driver in a heart beat if I needed the space. Hell, I may buy one anyway when my FR-S is paid off... Or a 2016 MX-5.

[sweetfrs]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

I really am down to two cars:

14' BRZ and the 14' Fiesta ST.

Just drove the Fiesta, what a blast. This is tough.

Bro isn't the fiesta fwd cuz :
1) rwd>awd>fwd
and
2) still not fun add and exhaust and some springs or coil overs and oh my gosh literally a go cart
hahahhah

[strat61caster]

If you're seriously considering the Fiesta I second the Abarth, most fun I've had on a test drive. It's not like you'd be committing, well aside from committing to dealing with a Fiat salesman.

[Timmy_Jones]

I agree with everyone, the BRZ is miles ahead in the looks department and you can't replace RWD.

With that said, my past car was a 360 RWHP coupe, which was a lot of fun and I know the BRZ will never be close to that without some extensive work and maintenance.

The Fiesta puts up some big numbers with a tune and some bolt ons (stock turbo).

Tough decision....I am going to sit in and drive a Fiesta ST tomorrow with the Recaro seats, see if I like the seats.

As for the BRZ seats, I liked them, but they were fairly narrow for my back as I am 5'10" and about 220 (32-34" waist).

[WWShehan]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

I agree with everyone, the BRZ is miles ahead in the looks department and you can't replace RWD.

With that said, my past car was a 360 RWHP coupe, which was a lot of fun and I know the BRZ will never be close to that without some extensive work and maintenance.

The Fiesta puts up some big numbers with a tune and some bolt ons (stock turbo).

Tough decision....I am going to sit in and drive a Fiesta ST tomorrow with the Recaro seats, see if I like the seats.

As for the BRZ seats, I liked them, but they were fairly narrow for my back as I am 5'10" and about 220 (32-34" waist).

I've heard the recaros are even more tight but they are great seats. Good luck 👍


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[n2oinferno]

Having sat in them, the Recaros are a lot tighter than the seats in the FRS/BRZ. Not a dealbreaker for me, and still not as tight as the ones in the RX8 R3, which were a dealbreaker, sadly.

[Timmy_Jones]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Having sat in them, the Recaros are a lot tighter than the seats in the FRS/BRZ. Not a dealbreaker for me, and still not as tight as the ones in the RX8 R3, which were a dealbreaker, sadly.

Bah, not what I was hoping to hear.

No more pullups and deadlifts for me. Thanks for the heads up, guys.

[f0rge]

The Recaro's in the Focus ST are terrible, I hope the Fiesta's are better.

[chrisl]

Originally Posted by f0rge

The Recaro's in the Focus ST are terrible, I hope the Fiesta's are better.

What? The ones in the Focus ST I sat in at the recent auto show were excellent - I didn't have any complaints at all.

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by f0rge

The Recaro's in the Focus ST are terrible, I hope the Fiesta's are better.

They're the same seats.

edit: The "base" Fiesta ST is still an awesome car without the Recaros, as well.

[f0rge]

Originally Posted by chrisl

What? The ones in the Focus ST I sat in at the recent auto show were excellent - I didn't have any complaints at all.

Well they're definitely not for everyone, I've driven my buddy's ST a bunch of times and sat in the passenger seat even more times and I just cant get comfortable.

The forums are full of "larger" gentlemen looking to trade the Recaros for regular seats.

I'm 6' 175lbs, so it's not a girth issue.

[n2oinferno]

Originally Posted by f0rge

Well they're definitely not for everyone, I've driven my buddy's ST a bunch of times and sat in the passenger seat even more times and I just cant get comfortable.

The forums are full of "larger" gentlemen looking to trade the Recaros for regular seats.

I'm 6' 175lbs, so it's not a girth issue.

Nah it all just depends on where the bolstering hits you. I'm 6'3" and was about 220 when I last sat in them, and didn't have any big issues. They were a bit tight, but I've lost 15 lbs since then so who knows, they may fit even better now.

As I mentioned previously, the RX8 R3 I drove I liked the seats at first, but on the 10 minute or so test drive, I realized that the thigh bolster was digging into my leg in a fashion that my left leg was falling asleep. I haven't had that problem in any other vehicle though. My Abarth has some decent bolsters on the seats but not too aggressive. It was definitely an adjustment from the Camry though.