Power dilemma

[Mim]

There are so many options out there for improving the power delivery and acceleration without going to headers or tuning.

Crawford Powerblocks, final drive ratio, lighter wheels and lighter drive shaft to name a few that come to mind. All these still leave the door open to going further with headers, custom tune, E85 flex fuel setup.

I would note each down and do some research into the pro's and cons. There are no free meals. Every mod will have trade off / con's. Final drive will hit fuel economy. headers can't really be installed without a custom tune and will also increase exhaust noise. Are you looking for a daily driver that feels awesome or something that looks awesome and feels crap to drive ie harsh and noisy?

[RichardsFRS]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

Yeah, 85 tune is all you need. I ran it for a little over a month and a half. Only down side is I had to drive 40+ miles to refill. MPG was lost by about 8-10 (city/hwy mix) and I just got sick of the drive+$4.17/gallon.

It was fun while it lasted.

I got my e85 stuff from Visconti. Bought it from a member here for a little less than $700.

Wow. 8 to 10 hp loss out of a tune is a lot. I was gona go with that tune exhaust headers but damn I don't want to lose half my mpg. I drive to far to get this done.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by RichardsFRS

Wow. 8 to 10 hp loss out of a tune is a lot. I was gona go with that tune exhaust headers but damn I don't want to lose half my mpg. U drive to far to get this done.

You lose about a third of your mpg. But gas is a lot cheaper. Figured it up once, I lost one mile per dollar to run e85. But it's plentiful here

[Summerwolf]

Either save up and go forced induction or keep the mods you have and drive it or trade it in.


The greatest NA gain is generally a header and tune..... E85 would provide gains for sure, but you're limiting yourself by not getting a quality header.


Power costs money, how fast do you want to go?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Either save up and go forced induction or keep the mods you have and drive it or trade it in.


The greatest NA gain is generally a header and tune..... E85 would provide gains for sure, but you're limiting yourself by not getting a quality header.


Power costs money, how fast do you want to go?

This^
Plus - There is always risk of component failure when changing anything on a car. The car was designed as a whole with the stock parts in mind. Altering anything can (not will, just can) cause issues elsewhere. If you want more power, a drop, different lights, louder exhaust, etc. then you have to fully understand what those risks are and be willing to take them. To say you (I again state that "most" of the people here do not want more power. many yes, most no)want more power but do not want any of the risks, cost or inconvenience (exhaust too loud) is counter intuitive.
You also complained that you would "lose your ass" by selling it with the mods you already have. Well welcome to realities of the world of car modding.

[Ashikabi]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

This^
Plus - There is always risk of component failure when changing anything on a car. The car was designed as a whole with the stock parts in mind. Altering anything can (not will, just can) cause issues elsewhere. If you want more power, a drop, different lights, louder exhaust, etc. then you have to fully understand what those risks are and be willing to take them. To say you (I again state that "most" of the people here do not want more power. many yes, most no)want more power but do not want any of the risks, cost or inconvenience (exhaust too loud) is counter intuitive.
You also complained that you would "lose your ass" by selling it with the mods you already have. Well welcome to realities of the world of car modding.

What Tcoat said

[gmanvilla1@gmail.com]

How loud headers with a borla exhaust? Is it obnoxious? Can't talk in the cabin? Forget about music...lol


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[Summerwolf]

Depends on what headers you get (catted or not, equal length or UEL) and what overpipe / front pipe you put on. Do some research.

[gmanvilla1@gmail.com]

Any Recommendations?


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[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by gmanvilla1@gmail.com

Any Recommendations?


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[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by gmanvilla1@gmail.com

Any Recommendations?

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Do some research.

Depends on what your end goal is.


Power, price, UEL, EL, there isn't one cure all. Also the front pipe / overpipes vary so much depending on the end users goal there isn't one solution for everyone. The "Engine/Exhaust/Transmission" section is a great place to start.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

Depends on what your end goal is.


Power, price, UEL, EL, there isn't one cure all. Also the front pipe / overpipes vary so much depending on the end users goal there isn't one solution for everyone. The "Engine/Exhaust/Transmission" section is a great place to start.

Yep. What constitutes "loud" is very subjective. The links I gave above are pretty much the definitive threads on options. Loads of clips to sort of hear what each sounds like as well. Of course every possible combo isn't there since that would be in the thousands (at least).

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Packofcrows

Yeah, 85 tune is all you need. I ran it for a little over a month and a half. Only down side is I had to drive 40+ miles to refill. MPG was lost by about 8-10 (city/hwy mix) and I just got sick of the drive+$4.17/gallon.

It was fun while it lasted.

I got my e85 stuff from Visconti. Bought it from a member here for a little less than $700.

eww Visconti lol, have you caught fire yet?


to OP I say supercharge the bitch and forget about the rest, e85 is all fine and dandy but for many (including myself), the cost of running e85 (distance for refuel, time taken to drive out to station with e85, plus it's actual cost) outweigh the benefits for me and within a few years would have cost nearly as much as the supercharger kit. That's just my opinion though, also e85 doesn't give you any sc whine/scream which is just sad.

[fumanchu1]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

This^
Plus - There is always risk of component failure when changing anything on a car. The car was designed as a whole with the stock parts in mind. Altering anything can (not will, just can) cause issues elsewhere. If you want more power, a drop, different lights, louder exhaust, etc. then you have to fully understand what those risks are and be willing to take them. To say you (I again state that "most" of the people here do not want more power. many yes, most no)want more power but do not want any of the risks, cost or inconvenience (exhaust too loud) is counter intuitive.
You also complained that you would "lose your ass" by selling it with the mods you already have. Well welcome to realities of the world of car modding.

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