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Plenty to be gained, after a header and tune it just starts costing bucket loads of money with very little return. I don't see the gen2 being much different though the power it is putting down now is pretty good. I'd be happy with stock gen2 number out of the FA20. I mainly just want more reliability.
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Same. I am hoping it's a party and FA24 swaps are worked out. I have another FA20 I was thinking about building and considering a K swap but now I don't know what to do.
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Moor powar is moor powar. End of story.
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I'm certain there are many NA Gen 1 cars out there that are just as quick as a Gen 2. |
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There shouldn't as the Gen2 is measuring 10-15whp more than bolt-on E85 Gen1s. But, that 10-15whp is in the noise so they are just as quick as it was explained here. A 14.3s@98mph 1/4mi is basically 14.0s@100mph, so it checks out. Makes me feel better.
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Haven't driven my twin for a week now (motorbike instead).
Now I'm having Schrödinger flashes and wondering if I'll find a dead cat under the hood.
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I'm saying if you're going to do it, be realistic. Tires are the best mod for the money, but looks like we get that with Gen 2 Premium.
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People are already trying to modify the Gen 2. Most people that mod the car won't be keeping stock tires. |
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But his other point regarding potential gains on an NA engine shows a fundamental lack of experience and/or familiarity with the Gen 1 platform. Trying to tell me the gains I got for the $1250 I spent on headers/OFT/e85 on the Gen1 platform are nothing more than "placebo" and that I should have spent the money on tires is just plain dumb. Are tires a good mod? It depends on what you want from the car but they do nothing to smooth out the torque curve and/or add hp which the headers/oft/e85 did (in a very noticeable and easily quantifiable way) on the Gen1. It remains to be seen what similar mods will add to a Gen 2, but I am hopeful they will be similar from a percentage-wise standpoint. Of course, the torque curve problem doesn't exist on the Gen 2 (at least, not as acutely), but a tune/headers/e85 will still likely net some very noticeable/quantifiable improvements. |
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