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12-09-2021, 11:58 AM | #15 |
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Also don't forget that the all mid-sized SUVs have a pitiful cargo capacity with all seats up. Minivans and the long versions of full-sized SUVs (think Suburban, not Tahoe) are much better for cargo with all seats in use. |
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Last I checked, which was a week or 2 ago, it's CX50, CX90 in Q3/Q4 2022 calendar year, then CX70 in 2023.
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Yup, I did buy ‘22 Toyota Highlander XSE Here’s a short feedback: Choose the one you like driving, features & how long the wait time & if you can wait or not. Here’s a long ass feedback: I was looking at these SUV at first. Toyota Highlander (both gas/hybrid) Toyota RAV4 (hybrid) Subaru Crosstrek Subaru Ascent Kia Sorento (both gas/hybrid) Mazda CX-9 Mazda CX-5 Hyundai Santa Fe (hybrid) Hyundai Tucson (both gas/hybrid) I didn’t really consider Palisade/Telluride due to crazy long waiting &/or crazy markup (I saw one that was $10k markup). At first, I wanted hybrid… but after doing few calculation, I wasn’t really saving much money, so throw that idea away. Test drove all of em (except Sorento) & brought the list down to: Toyota Highlander Subaru Ascent Kia Sorento Why those three? RAV4, Crosstrek & CX-5 we’re nice… but a lot smaller than expected. I’ll be the main one driving and will be carrying child seat, which takes up a lot of space. When riding in wife’s WRX plus have child seat behind me, I have less than 1” of knee space before ram into the dash. I tested all the cars on leg space & RAV4, Crosstrek & CX-5 didn’t have enough space. Yea, I can put it in 2nd row passenger side, but due to small garage, I can’t really do that. Tucson felt good, inside was roomy than expected… but felt Sorento was better option. Santa Fe had a decent space, but wasn’t looking for hybrid. CX-9 was good… but felt outdated & dear god, the key fob was ridiculously HUGE! It reminded me of one of first gen cellphone! lol Highlander drove good. They have solid engine & trans. They’re Toyota, they’re reliable… even recent drop in quality control issues. Con is not as much feature as I wanted compared in price/trim to others. I wanted features from Limited trim… but wanted XSE facia… can’t add features from Limited to XSE. So it was kinda lost on feature options. Ascent drove like… Subaru. My wife have WRX. My mom has Forester XT. My in-law have Leggy. Everything felt like Subaru. Cluster gauge is same as WRX/Forester. Power curve, cornering, views & EVERYTHING felt like bigger Forester XT. If you drove or own Subaru, you don’t need to learn anything. It’s same old Subaru. Con was their recall/complaints were a lot! Especially ‘19 model. Sadly, I wasn’t able to drive Sorento due to so many demands & not on the lot. I can get highest trim Sorento that comes way more features than highest trim Highlander/Ascent and cost $5k less than those two. Cons are reliability, value & dealership. Hyundai/Kia aren’t well known for their reliability. Yes I know they have 10yrs/100k warranty, but I heard several stories on new models to kinda scares me. Atm Hyundai/Kia is booming & their car value is crazy high… but for how long? I know for the fact Highlander & Ascent value will be kept hight, but Sorento is questionable. Local dealership demanded that, if I was financing, I needed to go through from them (minimum of 6 month), I guess that’s how they make money. I asked few simple questions that doesn’t require much thinking, but clearly they failed at answering. Felt like I was talking to NPC. If they can’t answer simple question, I question dealer mechanic to do simple maintenance (it comes w free maintenance for 2yrs). Last weekend, got my Highlander. If you’re keeping it stock, it’s a nice car… but if you’re thinking about modding, forget about it. Aftermarket wheels? Fuck, there ain’t much… very small options. Stock runs 20x8+30!!! What crazy mind run stock wheel offset of +30!?!?!?!?! And you know how hard to find 20x8.5+20 wheels? It’s already hard as is, made it worse. HL don’t have much aftermarket community either. Especially new gen have very handful on brands that make parts for them. So you’ll be doing a lot of custom parts. So look for ones that fit your needs like interior space & features. If you’re thinking of modding, might need to look deeper. |
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2nd row is for 2 car seats. 3rd row is for visiting family, which would be 2 adults and a child without car seat. |
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You consider bench seat or captain chairs for the 2nd row? Cuz that changes options/trims as well. To add, how often you gonna be using the 3rd row. If you're using 3rd row often then captain chairs option might be better.
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The new suspension in 2021 let the 3rd row gain 10 inches of leg room, and they've increased the behind the 3rd row storage. Plus with the new diesel option you can get an epa rated 28MPG on the road. (I know, I know, I'm done now)
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I turned in my youth card yesterday because I saw a chrysler pacifica and said “wow, someone finally made a good looking minivan.”
To be fair it was black on black with tasteful aftermarket wheels so not a typical Pacifica. If I had the same requirements as the OP without awd, I think this would be on my list with a few tasteful mods.
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My list for replacing the family car is (in order):
Chrysler Pacifica (cost effective, good internal space, enough power) Nissan Armada (Was in the top before gas price rise) Buick Enclave (Really good SUV, often ignored, should take a look) Ford Explorer (new platform is really good for dynamics, but for that, I have the twin) |
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