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Old 03-04-2022, 07:38 PM   #83945
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I mean, if you have the dough... To be conflicted over such completely different cars is interesting. Maybe you need to experience both for a while.

I've never been a muscle car guy so I'm already jaded.
I could have converted you 40 years ago!
A nicely done up 440, 409 or even 351 could rock your world the way a buzzy little four cylinder never would.

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@Tcoat. Your evaluation of 60s/70s muscle cars hit the mark. I wasn't a die hard muscle car guy, but I could neither fit inside nor afford a legit sports car. I did have a '70 Chevelle SS. At the time I really liked it. It was a "350 hp" automatic. It was reasonably comfortable, reasonably fast and drank like Lindsay Lohan. I replaced the QJ with a Holley spreadbore and it ran a little better and the highway fuel economy went up slightly. But there was no getting around what it was. It was a rust prone elephant. To say it "handled" is a gross overstatement.

I friend of mine occasionally asks me if I wish I still had it. The answer is unequivocally NO! If someone is interested in performance vehicles, 4 or 2 wheeled, these are the "good old days." If they just want "old," well, as humfrz would probably agree, "old ain't much to write home about."
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Old 03-04-2022, 09:04 PM   #83947
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Still cant decide between RX8 or oldschool muscle car... something like 1971 Camaro or Monte Carlo
the benefit to american cars is that they tend to start every time no matter what's wrong with them.

the benefit to an rx8 is that they need a full motor rebuild every 60k miles, so they're getting rarer and rarer than any '71 every year as the rebuild costs come closer and closer to their reselling price..
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@Tcoat. Your evaluation of 60s/70s muscle cars hit the mark. I wasn't a die hard muscle car guy, but I could neither fit inside nor afford a legit sports car. I did have a '70 Chevelle SS. At the time I really liked it. It was a "350 hp" automatic. It was reasonably comfortable, reasonably fast and drank like Lindsay Lohan. I replaced the QJ with a Holley spreadbore and it ran a little better and the highway fuel economy went up slightly. But there was no getting around what it was. It was a rust prone elephant. To say it "handled" is a gross overstatement.

I friend of mine occasionally asks me if I wish I still had it. The answer is unequivocally NO! If someone is interested in performance vehicles, 4 or 2 wheeled, these are the "good old days." If they just want "old," well, as humfrz would probably agree, "old ain't much to write home about."
I would love to have an old MOPAR as a weekend cruiser and sort of causally shop around every now and then. Then the practical facts of I have no shop or even garage and it would take up about 30% of my driveway space just to be driven a few times a year kicks in and I let the idea go for a while.

Then somebody on here brings the subject up and back to Hemmings I go!
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2562995.html
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1968-dodge-dart-601306
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...e/2562776.html
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2560220.html
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2538269.html
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I would love to have an old MOPAR as a weekend cruiser and sort of causally shop around every now and then. Then the practical facts of I have no shop or even garage and it would take up about 30% of my driveway space just to be driven a few times a year kicks in and I let the idea go for a while.

Then somebody on here brings the subject up and back to Hemmings I go!
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2562995.html
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1968-dodge-dart-601306
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...e/2562776.html
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2560220.html
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2538269.html
I understand. If I were Jay Leno it would be different. I could store the things in my car palace, have a staff who would pamper them and I could go look at them and maybe even drive one occasionally. But, I am not Leno and still remember the pain in the ass maintaining the SS was - and it was a relatively "mild" muscle car (hydraulic lifters, modest cam, auto trans). A friend had a solid lifter, lumpy cam, 4 speed standard version of the car and it was like owning a war bird. Fly it for an hour, work on it for 100.
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the benefit to american cars is that they tend to start every time no matter what's wrong with them.
Wait..what?
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I wish I could stop myself from getting into arguments with people on the internet. @humfrz got any of that prozac?
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There is no problem with getting in arguments. If you get into a position that you are getting annoyed with it just ask yourself, "is it productive to continue this conversation?", or my favorite. "Is continuing still entertaining?" If no just stop responding.
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as the song goes - "know when to hold them, know when to fold them, know when to walk away, know when to run" ......
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Muscle car, just those 2 popped more frequently on my local classified but yes... muscle car in general where i dont struggle much finding parts will be a bonus
I think you missed his point (it was a joke).

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God I want a 67 to 70 MOPAR again. Don't even care which model as long as it is the actual muscle version.
OK, bring on your MOPAR thing -
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OK, bring on your MOPAR thing -
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@Tcoat. Your evaluation of 60s/70s muscle cars hit the mark. I wasn't a die hard muscle car guy, but I could neither fit inside nor afford a legit sports car. I did have a '70 Chevelle SS. At the time I really liked it. It was a "350 hp" automatic. It was reasonably comfortable, reasonably fast and drank like Lindsay Lohan. I replaced the QJ with a Holley spreadbore and it ran a little better and the highway fuel economy went up slightly. But there was no getting around what it was. It was a rust prone elephant. To say it "handled" is a gross overstatement.

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no.no,no, - a 60s to 70s MOPAR thing -
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I would love to have an old MOPAR as a weekend cruiser and sort of causally shop around every now and then. Then the practical facts of I have no shop or even garage and it would take up about 30% of my driveway space just to be driven a few times a year kicks in and I let the idea go for a while.

Then somebody on here brings the subject up and back to Hemmings I go!
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2562995.html
https://www.hemmings.com/auction/1968-dodge-dart-601306
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...e/2562776.html
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2560220.html
https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds...t/2538269.html
Thats too much money, something like $10k should be ok to scratch the muscle car itch. What about those full tent? You could storage the car there until the next weekend
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