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NWFRS · 10-13-2015, 10:12 PM

Cop B was having a bad day because he only had 12hrs to come up with money that he owed to the Yakuza. As a result, subject A will likely go to jail forever for his street racing shenanigans. Subject A should pull his 401k and flee the country. Someplace warm. Hypothetically speaking of course.

TylerLieberman · 10-13-2015, 10:19 PM

Plot twist: OP is Person A.

Serious note: Just pay the damn ticket. If you know you were in the wrong, then why even try to fight it? Is having the integrity to own up to your own decisions really that much of a big deal? If it is, don't speed.

This is, of course, directed to this hypothetical "Person A" you're referring to in your argument.

Timmy_Jones · 10-14-2015, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Plot twist: OP is Person A.

Serious note: Just pay the damn ticket. If you know you were in the wrong, then why even try to fight it? Is having the integrity to own up to your own decisions really that much of a big deal? If it is, don't speed.

This is, of course, directed to this hypothetical "Person A" you're referring to in your argument.

It very possible, but im unsure if I am Person A.

Also, Person A knows they are wrong, but wanted to explore possible avenues to reduce he impact on insurance. No harm there.

SVTSHC · 10-14-2015, 09:41 AM

When you just pay without fighting you eliminate any opportunity to have the ticket reduced or turned into a non-moving violation. I still believe in having to PAY if you're in the wrong but the points that increase your insurance and such.... that's another story.

The only reason I fight tickets is to lower or do away with the points. I believe in paying for my mistakes but here in the good ol' USA with our artificially low speed limits... I don't think that I should have points on my license marking me as a callous or bad driver just because I'm more comfortable and focused at 80 than I am at 65.

Come to think of it, I think every driver on the road is more focused at higher average speeds. Then again, that could be relative.

Edit: Also, keep in mind. Unless YOU are summoned to court and HAVE to appear in person A traffic lawyer will go in your place and fight the ticket on your behalf. In addition to this, most lawyers will postpone the case till the very last time they can go at it. So you may not end up paying anything towards the ticket (if it ends up going that way) until late the following year. (If there are any points that end up landing on your license they count from the day you received the ticket, not the day you are convicted)

You can trust me, I've got gobs of traffic court experience (._.)....

pche · 10-14-2015, 09:50 AM

Always fight the ticket, at fault or not. They're very likely to reduce it if you weren't going triple the speed limit. I fight it every time and get reduced every time to no points. Most the time I don't even need to see the judge.

Alex0827a · 10-23-2015, 12:52 PM

Never gotten a ticket. Should have, but my buddy in the other car somehow talked our way out of it. Which is stunning, as we were doing 90 in a 35, with traffic around, and very clearly racing each other.

fumanchu1 · 10-23-2015, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jawn

Insurance companies will raise rates after a moving violation with points; the amount will depend on a variety of factors. It may not be a lot, since you've been driving for a while, but there's a 99% chance it'll increase. In most states, a moving violation will stay on your record for 3 years, which means you'll have elevated insurance rates for those 3 years. It's up to you to decide if that's worth it.

For reference:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimgorze...surance-rates/

Some insurance companies do not raise rates for 1 offense on the driving record only when you hit 2(all depends on the company and geographical location though)

fumanchu1 · 10-23-2015, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pche

Always fight the ticket, at fault or not. They're very likely to reduce it if you weren't going triple the speed limit. I fight it every time and get reduced every time to no points. Most the time I don't even need to see the judge.

Hell around here you can even call and set it up with prosecutors over the phone so it takes only about 15 minutes (around here at least, they have charts that let them know what reduction they can apply based on the speed you were doing over the limit)

Tcoat · 10-23-2015, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanchu1

Some insurance companies do not raise rates for 1 offense on the driving record only when you hit 2(all depends on the company and geographical location though)

And your particular policy even within the same company.

jawn · 10-23-2015, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

And your particular policy even within the same company.

Your mileage may vary, results not typical, terms and conditions apply, please talk to your doctor and see if going to court is right for you. If you have an erec...

Tcoat · 10-23-2015, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn

Your mileage may vary, results not typical, terms and conditions apply, please talk to your doctor and see if going to court is right for you. If you have an erec...

fumanchu1 · 10-23-2015, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawn

Your mileage may vary, results not typical, terms and conditions apply, please talk to your doctor and see if going to court is right for you. If you have an erec...

about that last part you offering to take care of it? I know you said you liked things in and around your mouth yesterday but didn't think it was to that extent...

jawn · 10-23-2015, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by fumanchu1

about that last part you offering to take care of it? I know you said you liked things in and around your mouth yesterday but didn't think it was to that extent...

Nah, the medically appropriate treatment requires a syringe and aspiration. It requires urgent care by a urology specialist, and even then the prognosis is fairly bleak.

cdrazic93 · 10-23-2015, 01:56 PM

this "Person A" sounds like a real hooligan.

10-13-2015, 10:12 PM	#15
NWFRS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: ‘13 FRS Location: USA Posts: 1,296 Thanks: 3,945 Thanked 1,502 Times in 634 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Cop B was having a bad day because he only had 12hrs to come up with money that he owed to the Yakuza. As a result, subject A will likely go to jail forever for his street racing shenanigans. Subject A should pull his 401k and flee the country. Someplace warm. Hypothetically speaking of course. __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82872

10-13-2015, 10:19 PM	#16
TylerLieberman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: '24 GR86 Location: Arizona Posts: 3,676 Thanks: 655 Thanked 3,344 Times in 1,577 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Plot twist: OP is Person A. Serious note: Just pay the damn ticket. If you know you were in the wrong, then why even try to fight it? Is having the integrity to own up to your own decisions really that much of a big deal? If it is, don't speed. This is, of course, directed to this hypothetical "Person A" you're referring to in your argument. __________________ Old 2013 FRS Build Thread (SOLD) Hakone 86 GR Build Thread (SOLD)

10-14-2015, 09:41 AM	#18
SVTSHC (ﾉಥ益ಥ)ﾉ Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: 2015 Series Blue BRZ Location: Bronx Posts: 1,393 Thanks: 930 Thanked 625 Times in 365 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When you just pay without fighting you eliminate any opportunity to have the ticket reduced or turned into a non-moving violation. I still believe in having to PAY if you're in the wrong but the points that increase your insurance and such.... that's another story. The only reason I fight tickets is to lower or do away with the points. I believe in paying for my mistakes but here in the good ol' USA with our artificially low speed limits... I don't think that I should have points on my license marking me as a callous or bad driver just because I'm more comfortable and focused at 80 than I am at 65. Come to think of it, I think every driver on the road is more focused at higher average speeds. Then again, that could be relative. Edit: Also, keep in mind. Unless YOU are summoned to court and HAVE to appear in person *A traffic lawyer will go in your place and fight the ticket on your behalf.* In addition to this, most lawyers will postpone the case till the very last time they can go at it. So you may not end up paying anything towards the ticket (if it ends up going that way) until late the following year. (If there are any points that end up landing on your license they count from the day you received the ticket, not the day you are convicted) You can trust me, I've got gobs of traffic court experience (._.).... __________________ "Sweet Subaru, sweet Subaru, send your BRZ unto me, for the roads of the unworthy must be baptized in speed and glory." ~Zaku Last edited by SVTSHC; 10-14-2015 at 09:52 AM.

10-23-2015, 01:56 PM	#28
cdrazic93 Junior Join Date: Aug 2013 Drives: a car Location: Probably at school Posts: 4,341 Thanks: 3,184 Thanked 2,512 Times in 1,502 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	this "Person A" sounds like a real hooligan. __________________ "Ah! What music! They could have never imagined, those pioneers who invented the automobile, that it would posses us like this, our imaginations, our dreams. Men love women, but even more than that, men love CARS!"-Lord Hesketh

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pche Guy on internet Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Slowly Location: PA Posts: 582 Thanks: 1,407 Thanked 492 Times in 233 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Always fight the ticket, at fault or not. They're very likely to reduce it if you weren't going triple the speed limit. I fight it every time and get reduced every time to no points. Most the time I don't even need to see the judge.

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