New ICE Vehicles Banned in California by 2035

[TylerLieberman]

Originally Posted by soundman98

the one thing i've learned from the early adopters in this forum is that most people are terrified of using a motor to it's full potential, including putting the gas pedal all the way to the floor.

there's got to be hundreds of threads in the history here of "i got tired of red-lining the motor all the time, so i got a ZL1 camero instead"

I mean to each their own. I had a 2013 and have a 2020 now, which has been stock for over a year at this point. But both had quite a few track events between the two of them, as have almost all of my other cars that quite a few people would consider "slow" or "behind the curve" compared to competitors.

This car is fine. It's other cars I'm not intersted in.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by TylerLieberman

Most people do a lot of stupid things.



0-60 in 7 seconds means you can never use its full power? That's literally the 86/BRZ and I've had multiple and floor it pretty frequently.



Ya. You should be driving an 80hp geo metro because you don't need anything more than that. It'll get you to 60 in a tad over 9 seconds and you can floor it everywhere.

Hey, my Accent with 110hp* was a hoot around town. It did 60 in 9.7 but weighed less than a Miata and had a hydraulic rack and no abs/TC/bs. Wasn't my favorite on the highway but that was only because it was loud and smelled funny.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

https://www.thedrive.com/news/2024-c...ub-competition

and in other news...well just kidding about the ban....

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

and in other news...well just kidding about the ban....

i'm more confused after reading that. it seems the official nccc rulebook still states that any vehicle with a lithium battery pack is prohibited from participating and must be kept a minimum of 30' away from anything else.

but then the official statement only really says e-ray's are welcome to participate. they don't seem to acknowledge the rules, or even seem to offer up how they'll be modifying the current ruleset later...

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i'm more confused after reading that. it seems the official nccc rulebook still states that any vehicle with a lithium battery pack is prohibited from participating and must be kept a minimum of 30' away from anything else.

but then the official statement only really says e-ray's are welcome to participate. they don't seem to acknowledge the rules, or even seem to offer up how they'll be modifying the current ruleset later...

The way I read it was the eRay is OK because its a hybrid not pure EV, and it has completed the number of laps required for a hybrid.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

The way I read it was the eRay is OK because its a hybrid not pure EV, and it has completed the number of laps required for a hybrid.

that's what the person issuing the statement said, but then their rules specifically say "ev/hybrid" as the definition of what category the rules apply to.

unless they're saying their own rulebook doesn't apply, which would definitely lead to an interesting 2023 season!

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by soundman98

that's what the person issuing the statement said, but then their rules specifically say "ev/hybrid" as the definition of what category the rules apply to.

unless they're saying their own rulebook doesn't apply, which would definitely lead to an interesting 2023 season!

I've found that most people who write rules are the first to throw them out the window when they become inconvenient to themselves.

[soundman98]

Guess who's got an e-ray on preorder! Lol

[Lantanafrs2]

Imo the eray is okay because gm said it's ok.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Lantanafrs2

Imo the eray is okay because gm said it's ok.

Didn't they say the same thing about the bolt before it erupted multiple times?

[Irace86.2.0]

More EV batteries being used for grid storage. Probably the best type of battery recycling that can be done until we get more battery recyclers in the market.

https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...&postcount=723

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by soundman98

Didn't they say the same thing about the bolt before it erupted multiple times?

It was something like 0.006% of the fleet, compared to 0.07% of all vehicles. The main concern was it happened during charging, when vehicles are likely to be in a garage, etc. GM of course did the right thing by recalling them.

They also had a separate issue where several caught fire in an accident due to a pretensioner setting the carpet on fire. I had a similar thing happen in a 1977 Honda Civic where the muffler was not wrapped properly, and was in contact with the floorboard. It set the carpet on fire.

[Irace86.2.0]

Chinese Start-Up’s Breakthrough Battery Technology Defies Cold Climate

https://insideevs.com/news/670858/gr...ather-battery/

Chinese unicorn Greater Bay Technology, a subsidiary of China’s state-owned Guangzhou Automobile Group (GAC), claims to have the solution for what is arguably one of the biggest drawbacks of EV batteries – loss of range in cold weather.

The company’s Phoenix battery comprises superconducting materials and thermal management, which allow the battery to heat from -4 degrees Fahrenheit to 77F in five minutes, reported Bloomberg. Huang Xiangdong, co-founder and chairman of Great Bay Technology, claimed that the battery operates like normal and charges in under six minutes in all climates.

Greater Bay Technology surpassed a valuation of $1 billion within two years of its founding. It found early success in its first-generation battery cell, which reportedly charges in the same time as it takes for a gas car to refuel. Its battery can gain 124 miles range in just 5 minutes of charging and can go from 0-80 percent state of charge (SoC) in just 8 minutes. It seems to be fitted in the GAC Aion V LX Plus.

Seems to me that battery swapping would also be nice for not only different sized batteries, but for different type of battery chemistries. Like putting on a pair of winter tires, if someone doesn't live in the snow, but is going up to Lake Tahoe and wants a battery with chemistry that works better in the snow, then swapping to that battery might be good, assuming it wasn't ideal for every day in terms of price, charge time, performance, etc. Just an idea.

[Dadhawk]

Now that both Ford and GM have committed to using the NASC standard (the Tesla charger) in their future models, things are going to get interesting.

Probably time for Tesla to spin off the Supercharger Network into its own entity. It certainly should open up competition as "range anxiety" should disappear. Also, probably another nail in the coffin of the idea of battery swaps.