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Spuds · 03-23-2020, 05:30 PM

Soon people will be thanking posts that are 7 years old...

StraightOuttaCanadaEh · 03-23-2020, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Spuds

Soon people will be thanking posts that are 7 years old...

better late than never lol

Lantanafrs2 · 03-24-2020, 10:14 PM

This thread is about as relevant as any other. I can't deal with black dark roast anymore myself

Dave-ROR · 03-24-2020, 11:44 PM

Now I have to know.. WTF did the OP end up doing 7 years later? @sho220 come on fess up!

Sure he hasn't logged in since 2014 but maybe he'll get board in our COVID-19 world and do so.

MuseChaser · 03-25-2020, 09:42 AM

Seven years old or not, I just read the whole thread for the first time. One variable that wasn't discussed that can help control the acidity of coffee is the water temperature used to brew the coffee. The hotter the water, the more oils from the bean are dissolved/melted/extracted into your coffee, and these oils are where the acidity and bitterness come from. That's one of the reasons coffee made in a percolator is so vile tasting...and so hard on the stomach. Try brewing with water at 195, or even 190 degrees. You'll end up with a much smoother, fruity-er cup of joe that'll let you taste more of the interesting notes of the particular bean you're using, and it should be a little easier on your stomach to boot. Win win.

The points others have made re/ darker roasts having less caffeine, all else being equal, are correct.

IceFyre13th · 03-25-2020, 12:21 PM

Its not coffee, unless you have a (cup of) Death Wish

https://www.deathwishcoffee.com/?utm...SAAEgLli_D_BwE

rice_classic · 03-27-2020, 02:38 AM

Y’all are doing it wrong.. buy organic unroasted beans, roast at home and drink fresh black coffee. It won’t matter how you prep it either - drip, press, espresso - fresh roasting made the single biggest difference than anything else.

All other coffee has been ruined for me.

MuseChaser · 03-28-2020, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Y’all are doing it wrong.. buy organic unroasted beans, roast at home and drink fresh black coffee. It won’t matter how you prep it either - drip, press, espresso - fresh roasting made the single biggest difference than anything else.

All other coffee has been ruined for me.

When you get the roast right, absolutely. Speaking from my own personal experience using a Whirley-Pop on an alcohol stove in the garage, getting repeatable results is difficult. I've roasted maybe a total of eight pounds so far, in 4 oz to 8 oz batches, and the results have ranged from one or two that were fantastic, most that were very good to excellent, and two that were simply awful..

My most consistent results have been doing very small batches in a Korean NUVO earthenware roaster. Every one of those has been wonderful.... but I can only do enough for two mugs at a time. Also... every batch seems to be at its peak about 48 hours after roasting, which was a surprise. I expected "Fresh roasted," i.e., after about 8 hours of off-gassing, to be the peak, but it's not.

Eager to learn more...

Tcoat · 03-28-2020, 01:14 PM

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That is very nice but I need to know where to get my galaxy s8 screen repaired! and can't find anybody anyplace I have looked.

^ This makes no sense at all since the cell phone repair spam post that resurrected the thread was deleted!

rice_classic · 03-29-2020, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by MuseChaser

When you get the roast right, absolutely. Speaking from my own personal experience using a Whirley-Pop on an alcohol stove in the garage, getting repeatable results is difficult. I've roasted maybe a total of eight pounds so far, in 4 oz to 8 oz batches, and the results have ranged from one or two that were fantastic, most that were very good to excellent, and two that were simply awful..

My most consistent results have been doing very small batches in a Korean NUVO earthenware roaster. Every one of those has been wonderful.... but I can only do enough for two mugs at a time. Also... every batch seems to be at its peak about 48 hours after roasting, which was a surprise. I expected "Fresh roasted," i.e., after about 8 hours of off-gassing, to be the peak, but it's not.

Eager to learn more...

I have the 750 but this will give you repeatable results.

Fresh Roast SR800 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07Z9Q3TLQ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_N8lGEb01GDDZA

gravitylover · 03-29-2020, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tcoat

^ This makes no sense at all since the cell phone repair spam post that resurrected the thread was deleted!

It's ok, we're used to people here saying things that don't make sense.

weederr33 · 03-29-2020, 04:33 PM

Weak! You are all weak!

conehead · 03-29-2020, 04:43 PM

The virus is raising zombie threads!

I hate the taste of coffee, and drink it because it is my only available option to stay awake on my long work shifts at odd hours. I drink it like cheap liquor, with mixers or as a quick shot (espresso) when possible.

That said, I got schooled on coffee chemistry. The dark roast acidic swill that is most common, is that way because it has a longer shelf life and it is easier to make consistently from different beans. That is what you get from starbucks regular coffee. It has lower caffeine as well.

If you can get light/blond roast, it has higher caffeine and lower acidity, and I think tastes less terrible.

NWFRS · 03-29-2020, 04:50 PM

Just got to add enough cream.

Dark roast stovetop espresso is awesome with half&half.

Maybe with some shortbread cookies.

03-24-2020, 11:44 PM	#60
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03-25-2020, 09:42 AM	#61
MuseChaser Feeling like thinking.... Join Date: Oct 2015 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: CNY Posts: 1,664 Thanks: 1,664 Thanked 2,433 Times in 1,064 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Seven years old or not, I just read the whole thread for the first time. One variable that wasn't discussed that can help control the acidity of coffee is the water temperature used to brew the coffee. The hotter the water, the more oils from the bean are dissolved/melted/extracted into your coffee, and these oils are where the acidity and bitterness come from. That's one of the reasons coffee made in a percolator is so vile tasting...and so hard on the stomach. Try brewing with water at 195, or even 190 degrees. You'll end up with a much smoother, fruity-er cup of joe that'll let you taste more of the interesting notes of the particular bean you're using, and it should be a little easier on your stomach to boot. Win win. The points others have made re/ darker roasts having less caffeine, all else being equal, are correct. __________________ Drive like everyone's life around you depends on it...

03-25-2020, 12:21 PM	#62
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rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Y’all are doing it wrong.. buy organic unroasted beans, roast at home and drink fresh black coffee. It won’t matter how you prep it either - drip, press, espresso - fresh roasting made the single biggest difference than anything else. All other coffee has been ruined for me. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS Last edited by rice_classic; 03-27-2020 at 02:38 AM. Reason: I love 7 year old threads!!!

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03-23-2020, 05:30 PM	#57
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03-24-2020, 10:14 PM	#59
Lantanafrs2 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Drives: 2013 frs red Location: South Florida Posts: 3,517 Thanks: 2,520 Thanked 3,088 Times in 1,654 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	This thread is about as relevant as any other. I can't deal with black dark roast anymore myself

03-29-2020, 04:43 PM	#69
conehead Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Drives: RS 2.0 Location: Phoenix Posts: 134 Thanks: 30 Thanked 62 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The virus is raising zombie threads! I hate the taste of coffee, and drink it because it is my only available option to stay awake on my long work shifts at odd hours. I drink it like cheap liquor, with mixers or as a quick shot (espresso) when possible. That said, I got schooled on coffee chemistry. The dark roast acidic swill that is most common, is that way because it has a longer shelf life and it is easier to make consistently from different beans. That is what you get from starbucks regular coffee. It has lower caffeine as well. If you can get light/blond roast, it has higher caffeine and lower acidity, and I think tastes less terrible.

03-29-2020, 04:50 PM	#70
NWFRS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: ‘13 FRS Location: USA Posts: 1,296 Thanks: 3,945 Thanked 1,502 Times in 634 Posts Mentioned: 17 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Just got to add enough cream. Dark roast stovetop espresso is awesome with half&half. Maybe with some shortbread cookies. __________________ http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82872

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