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Old 07-07-2017, 12:09 PM   #2409
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Anybody running a carbon vented hood with their EBSC kit? Specifically the Seibon TS style ones?

I ordered one (ETA 6-10 weeks) and just realized, since it has vents, it drops down a little inside the hood, I know with the stock hood clearance is real tight, so tight that we had to remove the bottom insulation during the install.

I'm crossing my fingers this hood fits with the SC or else I'm screwed.
Sorry, not sure on the TS-Style Seibon Hood. I have the Seibon VS-Style and that clears no problem. Edelbrocks BRZ has the Seibon DV-Style, which they had to cut out some of the support bracing to clear the supercharger. Hopefully someone can show a picture of the underside of the hood as BigFatFlip stated.
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So, I am sad to say that after a wonderful 15 months or so, I now have problems with my Delicious-tuned, Edelbrock set-up. It started last week during stop-and-go traffic, where the revs would swing from 1000 to 3500 and back smoothly, but continuously, when I came to a halt. It went away for a couple of days and then this morning it is back, showing as surging while driving at low speed.


Interestingly, when I shut everything down and start back up, it is gone, but I have only tried this once.


I have a wild idea, but not sure if it is possible. Since everything was fine for a long time and now this has come about after a lot of cruise control use, is it possible I have switched from one map to another, causing this strange issue...?


Any ideas out there? I will try to log it this weekend.


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So, I am sad to say that after a wonderful 15 months or so, I now have problems with my Delicious-tuned, Edelbrock set-up. It started last week during stop-and-go traffic, where the revs would swing from 1000 to 3500 and back smoothly, but continuously, when I came to a halt. It went away for a couple of days and then this morning it is back, showing as surging while driving at low speed.


Interestingly, when I shut everything down and start back up, it is gone, but I have only tried this once.


I have a wild idea, but not sure if it is possible. Since everything was fine for a long time and now this has come about after a lot of cruise control use, is it possible I have switched from one map to another, causing this strange issue...?


Any ideas out there? I will try to log it this weekend.


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Have you contacted Zach@Delicious? Are the rpm swings happening during idle? I would hazard a guess that you have a leak somewhere or a tube has popped off.
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Have you contacted Zach@Delicious? Are the rpm swings happening during idle? I would hazard a guess that you have a leak somewhere or a tube has popped off.
No, I haven't contacted Zach yet. I wanted to explore some ideas first. Yes, it happens on idle, but shows as surging at low speed. I will check for popped tubes tonight when the engine's cold.

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I had a similar experience the other day. do a quick datalog and look at your battery voltage. In my case I was getting surging at part throttle (smooth at full throttle) and I noticed that my voltage was changing from the typical 14V down to 12V when the surging was happening. I ended up tightening down the alternator cable and it fixed the problem. That may not be what is happening for you but it's a quick thing to check. I also have the Delicious tune but I'm running a Harrop rather than Edelbrock.
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I had a similar experience the other day. do a quick datalog and look at your battery voltage. In my case I was getting surging at part throttle (smooth at full throttle) and I noticed that my voltage was changing from the typical 14V down to 12V when the surging was happening. I ended up tightening down the alternator cable and it fixed the problem. That may not be what is happening for you but it's a quick thing to check. I also have the Delicious tune but I'm running a Harrop rather than Edelbrock.
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Thanks for the advice...I will give that a look, too.
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Thanks for the advice...I will give that a look, too.

Yesterday, I left from work and within a few hundred yards the car partially died, or more accurately at high throttle, it was acting like it had very little throttle. I could put my foot to the floor. I stopped and restarted the car several times with no improvement. Then I opened up the hood and checked all the pipes and cables I could find. I got back in and it started fine and drove home. It had a code P2119, related to throttle position control. I cleared the code when I got home.


Now, I know this is crazy, but I am wondering if, after the comments above that, a cheap Bluetooth OBDII dongle had been draining the battery and causing this issue. The dongle was left in permanently for months, as I don't like attaching and detaching due to the pins deforming. Since, the dongle has been removed, all seems well again now. I will keep you informed of what I find as I continue to investigate.
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I got back in and it started fine and drove home. It had a code P2119, related to throttle position control. I cleared the code when I got home.
Interesting, that code (THROTTLE VALVE RETURN SPRING MALFUNCTION) sounds more like mechanical issue, but I have no idea. I do vaguely remember somebody else here getting that same code.

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http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=1520

Don't know how it was resolved though. @Tomcat07 ?
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Interesting, that code (THROTTLE VALVE RETURN SPRING MALFUNCTION) sounds more like mechanical issue, but I have no idea. I do vaguely remember somebody else here getting that same code.

Edit: Found it
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...postcount=1520

Don't know how it was resolved though. @Tomcat07 ?

Thanks...I did a search on the forum and found a few code references, but not that specific thread. Battery voltage is 12-13v right now, so I think that it is ok. Just started her up again and no issues, revs nicely and idle rock solid.
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Anybody running a carbon vented hood with their EBSC kit? Specifically the Seibon TS style ones?

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Don't have that Seibon, but I do have a VIS carbon hood (AMS style) and it fits perfectly -even with the rain guards.
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Thanks...I did a search on the forum and found a few code references, but not that specific thread. Battery voltage is 12-13v right now, so I think that it is ok. Just started her up again and no issues, revs nicely and idle rock solid.
OK...latest...since removing the Kobra OBDII dongle, I have had zero issues...can this really be responsible for such major issues? :eek:


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OK...latest...since removing the Kobra OBDII dongle, I have had zero issues...can this really be responsible for such major issues? :eek:
Rather than wreck your OBDII port constantly plugging things into it, use one of these:
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I routed mine over to the passenger side, but yeah, I wouldn't leave anything plugged into the OBDII port long term for fear of battery drain or worse yet, device failure.
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Sorry, not sure on the TS-Style Seibon Hood. I have the Seibon VS-Style and that clears no problem. Edelbrocks BRZ has the Seibon DV-Style, which they had to cut out some of the support bracing to clear the supercharger. Hopefully someone can show a picture of the underside of the hood as BigFatFlip stated.
I took the chance and got the Seibon TS hood, happy to report NO CLEARANCE ISSUES! Fits perfectly with the Edelbrock SC.

Got her painted and all is well, might be placebo but car feels like it runs stronger with less heatsoak.


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