What supporting Mods do you REALLY need?

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by DAEMANO

Oil cooler and catch can are a must. Then catless header. If you change pulley, then consider wheel/tire upgeade, a stg 2 clutch, brake pads, fluid, and lines.

Sadly its a slippery slope with these cars

[CSG Mike]

Good tune, oil cooler, catch cans, and you'll be good to go.

[erbaker67]

Originally Posted by Adrian002

Alright I've done all kinds of reading about FI supporting mods on this forum but I feel like I don't have a real route to go with here.




I have an A/T FRS, looking to do a Vortech system set up and i'm aiming for a reliable daily driver with some pop since this car is really missing it.
I've read up on everything from oil coolers, catch cans, tranny coolers...but what do you REALLY need in order to commute to and from work, maybe some high revs on the weekends yknow nothing crazy guys.
There are a lot of cool and smart FRS owners on this forum that have seen it all when it comes to this car, so i'm looking for your opinion.

Great thread, I was wondering the same thing as I just bought the Sprintex charger for just a little more oomph. Also, an A/T here. Will look into the oil cooler but not looking to go crazy as well. To and from work with a spirited run here and there. I should be fine to get the SC installed and tuned first and then get the oil cooler or would I need to get retuned after I got the oil cooler? If thats the case, might as well save a little more and get it all done at once.

[Boofneenee]

Ive read from a lot of posters that an oil cooler could be bad for the car especially on colder days. That oil needs to get up to temp to be viscous enough. I warrant when you go FI you will need to think about the proper oil to use. I know people are going to poo poo on my oil cooler comment but I felt compelled to bring it up. Perhaps someone could chime in. I do believe that if you track the car an oil cooler is important. But I think that under normal DD circumstances an oil cooler may cause more complications than its worth.

[whiteout13FRS]

Originally Posted by Jaden

Your profile thing says you're in GTMO? but you say you're at a base in Cali.
if you were at GTMO were you just on base or part of the JTF??

JAden

I thought he said he was stationed in gitmo. And leaving his car in Cali. No reason he wouldn't have his frs in Irwin and pretty sure there are a few fi cars there in the area

[boredom.is.me]

Originally Posted by Boofneenee

Ive read from a lot of posters that an oil cooler could be bad for the car especially on colder days. That oil needs to get up to temp to be viscous enough. I warrant when you go FI you will need to think about the proper oil to use. I know people are going to poo poo on my oil cooler comment but I felt compelled to bring it up. Perhaps someone could chime in. I do believe that if you track the car an oil cooler is important. But I think that under normal DD circumstances an oil cooler may cause more complications than its worth.

thermostatic plate - let's the oil get up to a certain temp before flowing through the cooler

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by whiteout13FRS

I thought he said he was stationed in gitmo. And leaving his car in Cali. No reason he wouldn't have his frs in Irwin and pretty sure there are a few fi cars there in the area

It was more a question to find out what capacity he was at GTMO in and whether he was there now or had been there and forgot to update his profile.

I was there as part of the JTF with military intelligence and it's relatively rare, which is why I was asking...

Jaden

[R3NIK]

Originally Posted by boredom.is.me

thermostatic plate - let's the oil get up to a certain temp before flowing through the cooler

Exactly. Unless you live on the surface of the sun, like I do. I didn't worry about that option.
There's no downsides to installing an oil cooler, especially with the thermostatic option. You also add almost a quart of oil capacity to your engine.
And to the earlier comment, no you do not need a tune adjustment for an oil cooler.
Beyond having to fix/seal the fittings on my Mishimoto, I'm very happy with its ability to keep my oil a good 20-30 degrees cooler

[Cal3000]

I take what I said back. Needs an oil cooler for hot days. I installed Tomei UEL headers recently. In 100 degree weather, with 6 hard pulls on the highway, the coolant starts to boil. I never had this problem with stock header since it had the heat shield. I've ran hard in 100 degree weather with the stock headers many times without overheating. Maybe I should wrap the UEL headers.

So from my experience, if you are running with the stock headers on a non oil fed FI unit, there is enough shielding and cooling going on that you wont need any extra cooling system, but you are reaching the limit. I monitored this. When I would do hard pulls, I would see 246 F temps, which was the highest. Then I would drive normal and the temps would start to level out at 228-230 F within a minute. This was in 100 F weather. I drove like this for 50k miles.
If your headers dump a lot of heat, they should be wrapped and get an oil cooler.

[sw20kosh]

Originally Posted by Boofneenee

Ive read from a lot of posters that an oil cooler could be bad for the car especially on colder days. That oil needs to get up to temp to be viscous enough. I warrant when you go FI you will need to think about the proper oil to use. I know people are going to poo poo on my oil cooler comment but I felt compelled to bring it up. Perhaps someone could chime in. I do believe that if you track the car an oil cooler is important. But I think that under normal DD circumstances an oil cooler may cause more complications than its worth.

Thermostatic plate. Done.

[Adrian002]

Nice input everybody.


Really excited to slap on the Vortech when I get off this rock. Probably will be going to Evasive Motorsports for the install.

[cdrazic93]

If you take anyones advice, it better be CSG Mike's.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by Adrian002

Nice input everybody.


Really excited to slap on the Vortech when I get off this rock. Probably will be going to Evasive Motorsports for the install.

Wait till June to see the numbers on the edelbrock kit... It's only a month away...

Jaden

[draggin_az]

Having the Vortech, you can bolt her up and go.

To get the most out of it you'll need injectors, fuel pump, and a CBE.

If you want to step it up a notch you'll want the v2 with HD barrings and the 3.125 or 2.87 pulley.

To get the most out of that you'll want a header back exhaust and E85. The vortech does not do ~much~ better with smaller pulleys on 93. However you will pick up much better throttle response.