Considering a used 2013 BRZ - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

spicyricecake · 10-09-2014, 09:47 AM

Hello all, I recently posted on the FR-S side for some advice on the price of the FR-S.

I have been considering getting a 2013 car instead of a 2014 one to save some money on the purchase.

My initial budget was 25k + tax tag title, but I was not able to find any FR-S models in this price range when it was new and Automatic transmission (yes, I'm going to get an automatic)...

While I was able to put the Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0t base at 24k, and the girlfriend heavily favoring genny, I could not let go of how smooth the drive felt in the FR-S.

I've personally never driven the BRZ before, but I'd imagine it is more or less the same right?

I've decided if I was going to get toyobaru used, might as well get the BRZ that has nicer interior and a push start.

I've been able to find a few at 22k listed, and hopefully I can haggle it down even further.

My question is, what is a fair/good price of a BRZ before and after haggling?
and how bad is the depreciation rate of this vehicle?

Thanks guys

carma143 · 10-09-2014, 10:14 AM

I got really lucky and bought a used 2013 limited BRZ for US$20900 with a INVIDIA exhaust, amoung other mods I would have done myself eventually. used BRZs are usually good because the previous owner has most likely solved the various issues with the car already (crickets, etc). Cars with mods typically go for less cash because stock is always worth more.

I have seen FRSs used under 20000 miles going for less than 20k in the Los Angeles area.

Overall I would definitely choose a used 2013 BRZ for the price/fun ratio without having to deal with all the probkems the original owner had to go through.

spicyricecake · 10-09-2014, 10:46 AM

Cool deal. is that the limited with manual transmission you got?

Jrryjms07 · 10-09-2014, 10:50 AM

"..used BRZs are usually good because the previous owner has most likely solved the various issues with the car already (crickets, etc).."

Overall I would definitely choose a used 2013 BRZ for the price/fun ratio without having to deal with all the probkems the original owner had to go through.

Ther the same car just badges differently with little differences between them. Yu just pay more for the 'nicer' features on the brz. Great pick up on yur end tho.

spicyricecake · 10-09-2014, 11:19 AM

yeah the one I'm looking at is the limited auto with all the spanking features... the windows are already tinted too

spicyricecake · 10-09-2014, 11:22 AM

https://usedcars.truecar.com/car/Sub...ZCAC19D1608307

what do you guys think of that price? the miles on the car is much lower than the one I'm looking at

Dave-ROR · 10-09-2014, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spicyricecake

https://usedcars.truecar.com/car/Sub...ZCAC19D1608307

what do you guys think of that price? the miles on the car is much lower than the one I'm looking at

It's a manual and you want an auto.

I'd go private party on cars like these honestly. Any enthusiast car I kind of want to know a little bit about the prior owner. I'd be less likely to buy a car that was stanced and owned by a 20 year old than a tracked and very well maintained car with more miles from an older owner.

With dealership cars you really don't know anything about the previous owners and the dealerships won't care enough to find and disclose any issues that may show up long term (nothing against them, they don't have time to do that).

RobertPaulson · 10-09-2014, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

It's a manual and you want an auto.

I'd go private party on cars like these honestly. Any enthusiast car I kind of want to know a little bit about the prior owner. I'd be less likely to buy a car that was stanced and owned by a 20 year old than a tracked and very well maintained car with more miles from an older owner.

With dealership cars you really don't know anything about the previous owners and the dealerships won't care enough to find and disclose any issues that may show up long term (nothing against them, they don't have time to do that).

this,

also there is no cure for the crickets, if you already can't stand the sound don't bother getting the car.

Pizzman · 10-09-2014, 01:39 PM

Don't buy it. LOL

It seems like the genesis is picked by more consumers that say "uhhh I am not sure what I want, and 200 doesn't sound like much horsepower"
The BRZ/FRS are picked more by enthusiasts who say "I want that"

95% of owners I have hung out with agree.
Less "gotta race from light to light"
More "go away I have turns to concentrate on"

pmillion · 10-09-2014, 02:24 PM

2013 Subaru BRZ Limited
Miles 2,400
$25,300 or best
perfect car, no scatches, no dents or chips. Showroom condition

Equipment
• 2WD
• ABS Brakes
• Air Conditioning
• Alloy Wheels
• AM/FM Stereo
• Auxiliary Audio Input
• CD Audio
• Cruise Control
• Front Seat Heaters
• Leather & Suede Seats
• Manual Transmission
• Navigation System
• Overhead Airbags
• Power Locks
• Power Mirrors
• Power Windows
• Rear Defroster
• Rear Spoiler
• Satellite Radio Ready
• Side Airbags
• SiriusXM
• Traction Control
Specifications
• TransmissionManual 6 Speed
• Drive2WD
• Engine2.0L engine
• Cylinders4 cylinders
• Horsepower200 horsepower@7000rpm
• Torque151 torque@6400rpm

spicyricecake · 10-09-2014, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pizzman

Don't buy it. LOL

It seems like the genesis is picked by more consumers that say "uhhh I am not sure what I want, and 200 doesn't sound like much horsepower"
The BRZ/FRS are picked more by enthusiasts who say "I want that"

95% of owners I have hung out with agree.
Less "gotta race from light to light"
More "go away I have turns to concentrate on"

I actually hate that Genny comes with so much horse power... the entire ride felt fun, but I can see myself getting really tired of the jerking style of driving.

I still want a sports car, and the FR-S driving experience was so smooth...

Honestly I don't really care about HP hahaha

spicyricecake · 10-09-2014, 04:50 PM

Great condition, but I'm looking for A/T transmission and looking to pay much less if it is pre-owned. I also want to purchase from a dealer to get the certified ones so I have some warranty.

Thanks though!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmillion

2013 Subaru BRZ Limited
Miles 2,400
$25,300 or best
perfect car, no scatches, no dents or chips. Showroom condition

Equipment
• 2WD
• ABS Brakes
• Air Conditioning
• Alloy Wheels
• AM/FM Stereo
• Auxiliary Audio Input
• CD Audio
• Cruise Control
• Front Seat Heaters
• Leather & Suede Seats
• Manual Transmission
• Navigation System
• Overhead Airbags
• Power Locks
• Power Mirrors
• Power Windows
• Rear Defroster
• Rear Spoiler
• Satellite Radio Ready
• Side Airbags
• SiriusXM
• Traction Control
Specifications
• TransmissionManual 6 Speed
• Drive2WD
• Engine2.0L engine
• Cylinders4 cylinders
• Horsepower200 horsepower@7000rpm
• Torque151 torque@6400rpm

torqueno · 10-09-2014, 05:38 PM

If it helps, I bought my 2013 Limited Dark Gray BRZ w/ 1,860 miles for $22,100 plus tags and tax. Came out to $23,700 OTD. It is super clean, and the only mod on it is a 2.5" Perrin Cat-back Exhaust.

spicyricecake · 10-09-2014, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by torqueno

If it helps, I bought my 2013 Limited Dark Gray BRZ w/ 1,860 miles for $22,100 plus tags and tax. Came out to $23,700 OTD. It is super clean, and the only mod on it is a 2.5" Perrin Cat-back Exhaust.

This is actually very useful information as I have no idea what would be a good price on a 2013 model.

Thanks!

What area did you purchase it in?

Also what is this cricket noise everyone speaks of?

10-09-2014, 09:47 AM	#1
spicyricecake Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 2017 CWP BRZ Performance Package Location: DFW Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 168 Thanked 425 Times in 228 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Considering a used 2013 BRZ Hello all, I recently posted on the FR-S side for some advice on the price of the FR-S. I have been considering getting a 2013 car instead of a 2014 one to save some money on the purchase. My initial budget was 25k + tax tag title, but I was not able to find any FR-S models in this price range when it was new and Automatic transmission (yes, I'm going to get an automatic)... While I was able to put the Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0t base at 24k, and the girlfriend heavily favoring genny, I could not let go of how smooth the drive felt in the FR-S. I've personally never driven the BRZ before, but I'd imagine it is more or less the same right? I've decided if I was going to get toyobaru used, might as well get the BRZ that has nicer interior and a push start. I've been able to find a few at 22k listed, and hopefully I can haggle it down even further. My question is, what is a fair/good price of a BRZ before and after haggling? and how bad is the depreciation rate of this vehicle? Thanks guys

10-09-2014, 01:39 PM	#9
Pizzman Crap another obsession. Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited Location: In the IE under the C Posts: 213 Thanks: 95 Thanked 161 Times in 80 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Don't buy it. LOL It seems like the genesis is picked by more consumers that say "uhhh I am not sure what I want, and 200 doesn't sound like much horsepower" The BRZ/FRS are picked more by enthusiasts who say "I want that" 95% of owners I have hung out with agree. Less "gotta race from light to light" More "go away I have turns to concentrate on" __________________ "EEEk" the Zed. Perrin catback, HPS noise tube delete with KN dropin, trans and shifter bushings, Motul 300 front and rear, door emblem projectors, smoked markers.

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10-09-2014, 10:14 AM	#2
carma143 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: Toyota Highlander; Subaru BRZ (SWP) Location: California Posts: 431 Thanks: 137 Thanked 156 Times in 95 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I got really lucky and bought a used 2013 limited BRZ for US$20900 with a INVIDIA exhaust, amoung other mods I would have done myself eventually. used BRZs are usually good because the previous owner has most likely solved the various issues with the car already (crickets, etc). Cars with mods typically go for less cash because stock is always worth more. I have seen FRSs used under 20000 miles going for less than 20k in the Los Angeles area. Overall I would definitely choose a used 2013 BRZ for the price/fun ratio without having to deal with all the probkems the original owner had to go through.

10-09-2014, 10:46 AM	#3
spicyricecake Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 2017 CWP BRZ Performance Package Location: DFW Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 168 Thanked 425 Times in 228 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Cool deal. is that the limited with manual transmission you got?

10-09-2014, 10:50 AM	#4
Jrryjms07 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Location: Madison, WI Posts: 279 Thanks: 1,378 Thanked 125 Times in 67 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"..used BRZs are usually good because the previous owner has most likely solved the various issues with the car already (crickets, etc).." Overall I would definitely choose a used 2013 BRZ for the price/fun ratio without having to deal with all the probkems the original owner had to go through. Ther the same car just badges differently with little differences between them. Yu just pay more for the 'nicer' features on the brz. Great pick up on yur end tho.

10-09-2014, 11:19 AM	#5
spicyricecake Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 2017 CWP BRZ Performance Package Location: DFW Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 168 Thanked 425 Times in 228 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	yeah the one I'm looking at is the limited auto with all the spanking features... the windows are already tinted too

10-09-2014, 11:22 AM	#6
spicyricecake Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: 2017 CWP BRZ Performance Package Location: DFW Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 168 Thanked 425 Times in 228 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	https://usedcars.truecar.com/car/Sub...ZCAC19D1608307 what do you guys think of that price? the miles on the car is much lower than the one I'm looking at

10-09-2014, 02:24 PM	#10
pmillion Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: San Marcos, CA Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2013 Subaru BRZ Limited Miles 2,400 $25,300 or best perfect car, no scatches, no dents or chips. Showroom condition Equipment • 2WD • ABS Brakes • Air Conditioning • Alloy Wheels • AM/FM Stereo • Auxiliary Audio Input • CD Audio • Cruise Control • Front Seat Heaters • Leather & Suede Seats • Manual Transmission • Navigation System • Overhead Airbags • Power Locks • Power Mirrors • Power Windows • Rear Defroster • Rear Spoiler • Satellite Radio Ready • Side Airbags • SiriusXM • Traction Control Specifications • TransmissionManual 6 Speed • Drive2WD • Engine2.0L engine • Cylinders4 cylinders • Horsepower200 horsepower@7000rpm • Torque151 torque@6400rpm

10-09-2014, 05:38 PM	#13
torqueno Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Drives: BRZ Location: VA Posts: 43 Thanks: 18 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If it helps, I bought my 2013 Limited Dark Gray BRZ w/ 1,860 miles for $22,100 plus tags and tax. Came out to $23,700 OTD. It is super clean, and the only mod on it is a 2.5" Perrin Cat-back Exhaust.

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