Best track hood for cooling (coil overheating issue) - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

NoHaveMSG · 03-01-2023, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport

My grand sport didn’t have one and it was definitely pulling a lot of hot air out. On cold days , the center of my windshield would fog up right behind it. I think the idea is that the air rushing in will build up pressure in the engine bay and the high speed air over the hood creates negative pressure. In the grill, out the top vent.

That’s why naca ducts there concern me. You’re not only feeding the hot air into them, you’re reducing/disrupting the low pressure air. Honestly, and this intuitively from someone who hasn’t been in a wind tunnel or even scientific field for two decades, that hood raises a lot of eyebrows.

Obviously, a flip will create more negative pressure, but it comes at the cost of drag.

I think I need air rushing to the coils, not removing more hot air.

Please note I said "extract efficiently," not "not work at all." Also not all cars have the same cooling arrangement. The way the air comes in, arrangement of the rads, and positioning of the ducts also has a large affect. From my own use, I can say that drag is negligible going off the speed at the end of a 1/2 mile straight.

If your goal is to cool the coils, maybe a naca over the coils and something below to deflect air over them may be something that would work better for you.

kask2_6.0 · 03-01-2023, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReplicant

How far do these extend from the hood surface? Greater than 3/8"?

The furthest forward vent is around 0.75” with the height decreasing at each blade behind that. Are you height limited with class rules?

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NoHaveMSG · 03-01-2023, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RedReplicant

I've got four of the Verus ones in my hood, I can see them pouring heat out on grid and they leave dust trails on the hood behind the vents after events

It's cool to see them working. Though being a DGM car, I get bad water spotting on my hood behind the duct

RedReplicant · 03-01-2023, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kask2_6.0

The furthest forward vent is around 0.75” with the height decreasing at each blade behind that. Are you height limited with class rules?

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Yeup, unfortunately. Could be trimmed, but I was curious out of the box.

Kelse92 · 03-01-2023, 02:59 PM

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned updating to the 2016+ coils and engine wiring harness. That fixes most of the coil-pack issues.

GrandSport · 03-01-2023, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelse92

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned updating to the 2016+ coils and engine wiring harness. That fixes most of the coil-pack issues.

This I'm interested in.

BTW: Do you run brake ducts on the AP Endurance kit? I feel like it doesn't need it and I could have ducted those hoses to the coils. Also, what pads do you run? Ferodos last forever but they are very hard to modulate imo. And they're loud AF.

NoHaveMSG · 03-01-2023, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelse92

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned updating to the 2016+ coils and engine wiring harness. That fixes most of the coil-pack issues.

I just assumed he had already done it

GrandSport · 03-01-2023, 05:39 PM

what's the best way to go about this? and how much does it help?

Opie · 03-01-2023, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport

They don’t have the same coil packs I do. They also get new coils after every session or two.

I don’t have a “heat” problem. I have a TON of cooling and if anything it’s over cooled because my oil doesn’t get above 205, even in texas.

My problem is the coil packs popping.

So fix the problem not add more vents, or change a hood. Replace the engine harness & coil packs with the updated harness and coilpacks.

For the 2014 the updated engine harness part number (from Subaru) is: 24020AG080 and the coil packs are part number (from Subaru): 22433AA730

Kelse92 · 03-01-2023, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport

This I'm interested in.

BTW: Do you run brake ducts on the AP Endurance kit? I feel like it doesn't need it and I could have ducted those hoses to the coils. Also, what pads do you run? Ferodos last forever but they are very hard to modulate imo. And they're loud AF.

It's a useful mod, for the cost of a hood and new vents, this is probably a cheaper route to try first.

As far as brakes go, I've never run ducting, but I also am not a fan of the Ferodo pads, Cobalt Friction has been my Go-to for a few years.

jflogerzi · 03-01-2023, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport

They don’t have the same coil packs I do. They also get new coils after every session or two.

I don’t have a “heat” problem. I have a TON of cooling and if anything it’s over cooled because my oil doesn’t get above 205, even in texas.

My problem is the coil packs popping.

Only way to fix this is to switch to the 2015 Style harness. The issue is in the harness and not the coil.

GrandSport · 03-01-2023, 07:00 PM

What about the coil pack conversion kits? seems simpler and easier.

https://subimods.com/products/otl-pe...NNKva8iplDDZc4

jflogerzi · 03-01-2023, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GrandSport

What about the coil pack conversion kits? seems simpler and easier.

https://subimods.com/products/otl-pe...NNKva8iplDDZc4

You can give them a shot but its the harness going into those adapters that needs to be fixed in order to make it 100% Good. There is another long thread about this very topic in this section.

GrandSport · 03-02-2023, 01:25 AM

Do you remember where it was or the subject? I tried a search but coil and harness are kind of generic.

So just replacing the harness and using 24020AG080 fixes it (and obviously, the updated coils).

03-01-2023, 02:59 PM	#19
Kelse92 At the track Join Date: Feb 2021 Drives: '14 FRS - Former e92 M3 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 193 Thanks: 239 Thanked 208 Times in 100 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm surprised nobody has mentioned updating to the 2016+ coils and engine wiring harness. That fixes most of the coil-pack issues. __________________ #ladydriven Nasa TT4 FRS // JRZ RS Pro // Karcepts Sway Bars // K24 Swap (in Progress) // AP Endurance BBK // Cobalt Friction brake pads // Safeplace Auto

03-01-2023, 05:39 PM	#22
GrandSport Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Drives: 13 Viper; 14 BRZ; 90 Miata; 18 AMG Location: TX Posts: 304 Thanks: 65 Thanked 187 Times in 103 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	what's the best way to go about this? and how much does it help? __________________ 2014 BRZ: Full track car. Gutted, caged, coilovers, AP enduro, OMP, bolt ons, aero, etc, 2013 Viper GTS : Tractive Coilovers, ACR sway bars, aero, carbon, exhaust, etc. 1992 NA Spec Miata: 1.6 + 1999 NB Spec Miata: 1.8 w/ all the goodies. 2018 GLE 63 AMG: +800hp whistling AWD TT V8 grocery getter 2016 GX460: IDK. Too reliable to sell. Too boring to use.

03-01-2023, 07:00 PM	#26
GrandSport Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Drives: 13 Viper; 14 BRZ; 90 Miata; 18 AMG Location: TX Posts: 304 Thanks: 65 Thanked 187 Times in 103 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What about the coil pack conversion kits? seems simpler and easier. https://subimods.com/products/otl-pe...NNKva8iplDDZc4 __________________ 2014 BRZ: Full track car. Gutted, caged, coilovers, AP enduro, OMP, bolt ons, aero, etc, 2013 Viper GTS : Tractive Coilovers, ACR sway bars, aero, carbon, exhaust, etc. 1992 NA Spec Miata: 1.6 + 1999 NB Spec Miata: 1.8 w/ all the goodies. 2018 GLE 63 AMG: +800hp whistling AWD TT V8 grocery getter 2016 GX460: IDK. Too reliable to sell. Too boring to use.

03-02-2023, 01:25 AM	#28
GrandSport Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Drives: 13 Viper; 14 BRZ; 90 Miata; 18 AMG Location: TX Posts: 304 Thanks: 65 Thanked 187 Times in 103 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do you remember where it was or the subject? I tried a search but coil and harness are kind of generic. So just replacing the harness and using 24020AG080 fixes it (and obviously, the updated coils). __________________ 2014 BRZ: Full track car. Gutted, caged, coilovers, AP enduro, OMP, bolt ons, aero, etc, 2013 Viper GTS : Tractive Coilovers, ACR sway bars, aero, carbon, exhaust, etc. 1992 NA Spec Miata: 1.6 + 1999 NB Spec Miata: 1.8 w/ all the goodies. 2018 GLE 63 AMG: +800hp whistling AWD TT V8 grocery getter 2016 GX460: IDK. Too reliable to sell. Too boring to use.

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