DIY: Track Mode on 2013-2016 cars

[MJones_RB]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

No wires present, just a rubber plug in the hole.

I got mine from 417motoring too. They're good, they sent it to me twice cause Fedex is useless and sent it back to them.

Thanks for the info.

Yes 417 is very cool, and fair pricing. Hope to get a red intake manifold from them when one is available.

[Irace86.2.0]

Just for clarification:

If I touch the Traction Control button then the traction control turns off, so I can launch the car, do a burnout, spin the car, whatever. After like 35mph or something, the light turns back off, as traction control is reengaged. If I touch the VSC Sport then the VSC becomes less aggressive, which allows more slip. If I hold the Traction Control button down for 4+ seconds then the traction control and VSC turns off, but not as completely as it would if someone did the pedal dance. Correct?

Typically, I get in my car and immediately hold down the traction control button for 3-4 seconds until all the lights go on, so I can max hoon as I drive. I drive like this the majority of the time. If I am on the highway or something more long term then I will turn back on the nannies because there is no point in having them off. If it is damp out in the morning or at night when it is cool or a slight drizzle then I will turn on the VSC Sport button. If it is medium to heavy rain then I will leave all the nannies on.

Considering the above, it is worth doing this mode?

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Just for clarification:

If I touch the Traction Control button then the traction control turns off, so I can launch the car, do a burnout, spin the car, whatever. After like 35mph or something, the light turns back off, as traction control is reengaged. If I touch the VSC Sport then the VSC becomes less aggressive, which allows more slip. If I hold the Traction Control button down for 4+ seconds then the traction control and VSC turns off, but not as completely as it would if someone did the pedal dance. Correct?

Typically, I get in my car and immediately hold down the traction control button for 3-4 seconds until all the lights go on, so I can max hoon as I drive. I drive like this the majority of the time. If I am on the highway or something more long term then I will turn back on the nannies because there is no point in having them off. If it is damp out in the morning or at night when it is cool or a slight drizzle then I will turn on the VSC Sport button. If it is medium to heavy rain then I will leave all the nannies on.

Considering the above, it is worth doing this mode?

Yes I think so, because all levels of assist drop in every mode compared to 2013-2016.

What you describe (holding trac down for 4secs) is called mode 4, and the biggest difference with the 2017 programming in mode 4 is that the E-Diff is turned off (MT only).

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Yes I think so, because all levels of assist drop in every mode compared to 2013-2016.

What you describe (holding trac down for 4secs) is called mode 4, and the biggest difference with the 2017 programming in mode 4 is that the E-Diff is turned off (MT only).

What's the difference between that and the pedal dance?

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

What's the difference between that and the pedal dance?

After searching around a bit, I think the only difference between the 2 modes is the EBD is also turned off with the pedal dance.

[reh8388]

Ordered a module off eBay and it should be in Thursday. Thanks for the write up!

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

After searching around a bit, I think the only difference between the 2 modes is the EBD is also turned off with the pedal dance.

That’s what I could gather too. I don’t trust the pedal dance for the sole reason that it can trigger ice mode.

[Evan55]

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

IIRC, 17+ don't need the pedal dance. You just hold the correct button, and achieve the same effect.

Can confirm. Long press on a 17+ definitely disables everything

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Evan55

Can confirm. Long press on a 17+ definitely disables everything

That is not the issue with the long press. The long press on pre-17' cars will slide too. The issue is, trail braking causes the EBD to freak out on long press, and E-diff is still active causing it to grab one of the rear brakes, most notably if you get the inside tire airborne on a curb to engage the torsen diff.

[Evan55]

Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG

That is not the issue with the long press. The long press on pre-17' cars will slide too. The issue is, trail braking causes the EBD to freak out on long press, and E-diff is still active causing it to grab one of the rear brakes, most notably if you get the inside tire airborne on a curb to engage the torsen diff.

I dont know what to tell you other than that I regularly jump curbs, get airborne, and trailbrake and no it does not intervene. This coincides with Subaru's documentation that it is all off.



EBD will in fact intervene if you are just in track mode, so perhaps you are confusing long press with track mode.

[NoHaveMSG]

Originally Posted by Evan55

I dont know what to tell you other than that I regularly jump curbs, get airborne, and trailbrake and no it does not intervene. This coincides with Subaru's documentation that it is all off.



EBD will in fact intervene if you are just in track mode, so perhaps you are confusing long press with track mode.

I have a 13', I don't have track mode.

Your example of a drift isn't the problem is all I am saying. Someone else has confirmed e-diff is off with a 17+ on long press. Still waiting on verification on trail braking.

[TommyW]

So is this mode less intrusive than to 10 sec hold on the early models? I use that on the track if it's a little wet rather than pedal dance.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by TommyW

So is this mode less intrusive than to 10 sec hold on the early models? I use that on the track if it's a little wet rather than pedal dance.

Per toyota's graphic it's in between the old VDC sport and the 10s hold trac off.
That said, on the newer modules the 10s trac off is 'even more off' since E-diff is disabled. Maybe EBFD is off too but nobody has been able to confirm it yet.

[norcalpb]

Thanks for this write up! I just bought a 2017 PP 6mt brake pump and will attempt to transfer over the VCS module to my 2013 BRZ.

The ability to put the differential braking in “track” instead of “always on” was what sold me.