Random Thoughts - Part III The Search for Spark (No Politics)

[x808drifter]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

New one is the same. I'm asking my wife to clarify what is going on and she says, "You have to read the book first."

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

New one is the same. I'm asking my wife to clarify what is going on and she says, "You have to read the book first."

Not that you have to read the book, she's just lazy. That and not wanting to talk during the film.
So much was changed it would definitely be a convo for after the movie.
1 not so much.
So much shit changed in two its nowhere near the book.

This is gonna be long sry.

The changes between the book and the first movie were minimal.
This is of course leave out thing that were dropped.
Kynes a dude.
How he/she died.

Book vs 2nd movie chaned a fk ton.
Chani is actually Kynes daughter. (not having to do with the plot at all so whateves)

Between the beginning of the movie and Gurney showing up is actually 3-4 years not the few months we see in the movie. Chani/Paul have a kid in that time. That kid dies.
And Alia is also born and kills the Baron not Paul. Gom-Jabar XD.
Ages at end of first Book
Paul 18-19
Chani 17-18
Alia 3-4
Ages in this movie.
Paul 15
Chani 14
Alia not born.

Rabban gets killed in a one sentence line. "Rabban is also dead."
That is it. We don't know who or how he died. But all the films and the mini series do show what happened and IMO makes them better.

The Guild are the ones with the real power. The emperor is more or less just a puppet.
Just change spice to oil and Arrakis to the middle east and you kinda see where Frank Herbert was coming from when he wrote the books.

The whole great houses thing not accepting his rise as the emperor also isn't a thing in the book.
They are totally setting up for the 61 billion people killed in his name that we find out about at the start of the next book. In the book those people were killed because they wouldn't convert the the church of Muad'Dib basically.

And one of the biggest ones.
Chani totally doesn't leave at the end.
She know that the marriage to the princess is a political thing and nothing else.
That is a huge plot point in the next book.

More changes from the book that as of now aren't nearly as plot relevant.
The whole north vs south religion thing doesn't exist.
Stilgar doesn't do that whole Lisan Al Gaib over and over thing either.
Becoming a "Fremen" thing doesn't exist. It's just a right of passage to lead men into battle.
Chani's Fremen name is a pet name Paul came up for her.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

We’ve been down this road (or over this sand dune) at least twice before. If you don’t get it, YOU JUST DON’T GET IT! That’s fine, move on. However, it’s no reason to stomp it into the sand repeatedly. I’m not a book reader but my wife is and has read all of them including companions and treatises on both the authors and the books.
Yes there is much left out and much compressed in the movies. Yet, never having read the books I was able to follow and very much enjoy the 1984 movie. This in spite of Kyle MacLachian’s acting. The only disappointment I recall with the 2021 version was that it split the 1984 version into two parts.
I have the 1984 Dune on VHS, Laser disc and Blue Ray. (I was never able to obtain the uncut version with the nude scenes that was available on laser disc at a HUGE premium.) The multiple made for TV series I have on DVD’s but do not remember them as being all that well done. Jodorosky’s Dune I have on DVD.
Below are two links to earlier posts I have made and one for the Wikipedia page as reference.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...ostcount=65198
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...ostcount=72493
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(franchise)

Spicy.

[Spuds]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

Not that you have to read the book, she's just lazy. That and not wanting to talk during the film.
So much was changed it would definitely be a convo for after the movie.
1 not so much.
So much shit changed in two its nowhere near the book.

This is gonna be long sry.
...

... Spoiler warning?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by villainous_frx

We are back. Site loaded quickly and in one try. Glad the admin is plugging away to keep 'er going

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I LOG IN?!?!?

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

We’ve been down this road (or over this sand dune) at least twice before. If you don’t get it, YOU JUST DON’T GET IT! That’s fine, move on. However, it’s no reason to stomp it into the sand repeatedly. I’m not a book reader but my wife is and has read all of them including companions and treatises on both the authors and the books.
Yes there is much left out and much compressed in the movies. Yet, never having read the books I was able to follow and very much enjoy the 1984 movie. This in spite of Kyle MacLachian’s acting. The only disappointment I recall with the 2021 version was that it split the 1984 version into two parts.
I have the 1984 Dune on VHS, Laser disc and Blue Ray. (I was never able to obtain the uncut version with the nude scenes that was available on laser disc at a HUGE premium.) The multiple made for TV series I have on DVD’s but do not remember them as being all that well done. Jodorosky’s Dune I have on DVD.
Below are two links to earlier posts I have made and one for the Wikipedia page as reference.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...ostcount=65198
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/show...ostcount=72493
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dune_(franchise)

i only watch the 'bad lip reading' youtube videos of dune. haven't tried to look into it otherwise, the idea of the series just doesn't excite me.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by Stephen W.

Well I just tried to access the FT86 discord site on my old Win7 machine. I even tried the search function to find it. I got the "We've searched high and low and can't find that" error message.

So then I fired up Firefox and typed in Discord.gg/ft86 and wham there it was. BUT... I had this waving hand at the bottom of the screen telling me I had to complete the process. It wanted my cell number to send me a one time code. I did that, got the code, filled in the blanks and then it asked for my password. You guessed it. It tells me I'm WRONG! However, the page has loaded and I can read it. I don't see my Discord user name anywhere nor does it look like I can enter or reply so... WTF's up wit dat?
Like I said, I give up!

i tried for a while. it allows me to create an account, and sends the verification email. but then the 'verify email' link is dead.

i tried an alternate internet connection thinking my spam filter was blocking it somehow, but same error. now i get an error about changing my email too often...

i've never had great luck with discord ever...

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

I haven't seen the new one but the original sucked ass. The common complaint was that it was impossible to follow without first having read the book.

I can totally believe it.

[spike021]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

Same. I couldn't handle Lord of the Rings.

Fortunately LOTR was never an issue for me. I thought the movies were amazing and that was without reading the books; in fact my dad bought them for me years ago and I could not get into them at all. Made me feel guilty lol.

[x808drifter]

Meta (FB/Instagram/etc) are down. Do not reset your passwords.

[Stephen W.]

Originally Posted by x808drifter

Meta (FB/Instagram/etc) are down. Do not reset your passwords.

Funny how this sight with all it's problems of late is up and the big guys are down, eh? (Super Tuesday and someone is trying to control social media. You heard it here first!)

[spcmafia]

Sweet baby Jesus.....



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[Spuds]

Originally Posted by spcmafia

Sweet baby Jesus.....



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[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by Spuds

I want it...

Beautiful. And one hell of a performer.

But, if I'm paying that much money for a vehicle it's going to have wings and maybe a jet engine. That way I could at least use it without driving every bit of value out of it because I wouldn't want to daily driver it.

With a car like this, I'd probably wreck it in the first six months....

[p1l0t]

Originally Posted by spcmafia

Sweet baby Jesus.....



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I have one in GT7. In VR driving it how I want without fear of death... Who needs real life anyway

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