|
Engine Swaps Discussion of engine swaps. |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
12-15-2023, 06:40 AM | #43 | |
Weight Weenie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Drives: 15 FR-S
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,601
Thanks: 5,065
Thanked 2,335 Times in 1,351 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
As far as I know the FA20 is 175 WHP and the FA24 205-210WHP. Quite a difference but enough to call the car fast? I don't think so. A header tune on a FA20 would get you close enough IMO. I drive a FR-S and am fine with the power. The engine is untouched. That's not to say I won't add power |
|
12-15-2023, 06:42 AM | #44 |
Weight Weenie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Drives: 15 FR-S
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,601
Thanks: 5,065
Thanked 2,335 Times in 1,351 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
12-15-2023, 08:40 AM | #45 | |
LMGTFY
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 13 FRS, 91 Miata
Location: Lava Town, HI
Posts: 2,776
Thanks: 5,561
Thanked 3,647 Times in 1,625 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
The normal non-tuned dyno is in the 170WHP range with 145-50 WTQ. Which would put it at about it's stated from Toyota/Subaru power of 200HP. Every time a manufacture says HP numbers its always at the crank unless they specify it's wheel horsepower. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to x808drifter For This Useful Post: | Teseo (12-15-2023) |
12-15-2023, 08:50 AM | #46 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Drives: brz 2017 hksv2
Location: italy
Posts: 2,207
Thanks: 502
Thanked 1,070 Times in 778 Posts
Mentioned: 65 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to tomm.brz For This Useful Post: |
12-15-2023, 10:54 AM | #47 | |
Meow
Join Date: Aug 2017
Drives: GT86, Volvo 996
Location: France
Posts: 541
Thanks: 323
Thanked 453 Times in 240 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
We can argue about actual crank hp for an 86 till the cows come home, but the point is there's about 40whp difference between the two. Some data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...JJI/edit#gid=0 |
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to alex87f For This Useful Post: | new2subaru (12-15-2023), Spankopotomous (12-16-2023) |
12-15-2023, 11:19 AM | #48 |
First 86 Driver Baby!
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: FR-S, Flex
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Posts: 1,758
Thanks: 519
Thanked 524 Times in 356 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
To be accurate, it's an FA24 short block and they use your existing heads (so FA20 heads).
There are a couple of other companies working on this swap as well (RS Motors and CSG) that I know of. Hopefully we'll get more info and see more of these swaps in he future. I also reached out to PTuning about doing this swap since they're right down the road from me. They're going to research it to see if it's something they'd be interested in pursuing. It would be nice to have a shop on the East Coast doing the swap. |
12-15-2023, 02:50 PM | #49 | |
Meow
Join Date: Aug 2017
Drives: GT86, Volvo 996
Location: France
Posts: 541
Thanks: 323
Thanked 453 Times in 240 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
|
|
12-15-2023, 03:16 PM | #50 | |
Weight Weenie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Drives: 15 FR-S
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,601
Thanks: 5,065
Thanked 2,335 Times in 1,351 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Like i said, we'll see what happens when the dust clears. There aren't that many out there yet. If/when I blow my motor I'd be stupid not to put a fA24 block in it though. I'm following this thread to see how feasible it is. There will be a kit offered at some point. |
|
12-15-2023, 04:14 PM | #51 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: JRSC BRZ SOLD
Location: Ohio
Posts: 939
Thanks: 681
Thanked 739 Times in 396 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
I don’t think they could offer a kit since they have to machine the heads to match the larger bore of the FA24.
|
The Following User Says Thank You to PulsarBeeerz For This Useful Post: | Opie (12-21-2023) |
12-15-2023, 04:58 PM | #52 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Drives: None
Location: Arizona
Posts: 942
Thanks: 1,504
Thanked 1,281 Times in 541 Posts
Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
ASM already sells K24 S2000 swaps that ship on a pallet, motor prepped and ready to drop in. It wouldn't surprise me if they ended up doing FA24 swaps the same way.
__________________
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to RedReplicant For This Useful Post: | Pat (12-18-2023), PulsarBeeerz (12-17-2023) |
12-15-2023, 05:18 PM | #53 | |
Weight Weenie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Drives: 15 FR-S
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,601
Thanks: 5,065
Thanked 2,335 Times in 1,351 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
|
|
12-15-2023, 05:20 PM | #54 |
Weight Weenie
Join Date: Aug 2015
Drives: 15 FR-S
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,601
Thanks: 5,065
Thanked 2,335 Times in 1,351 Posts
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to new2subaru For This Useful Post: | RedReplicant (12-15-2023) |
12-15-2023, 05:39 PM | #55 |
First 86 Driver Baby!
Join Date: Jan 2012
Drives: FR-S, Flex
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Posts: 1,758
Thanks: 519
Thanked 524 Times in 356 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
|
|
12-15-2023, 06:11 PM | #56 | |
LMGTFY
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 13 FRS, 91 Miata
Location: Lava Town, HI
Posts: 2,776
Thanks: 5,561
Thanked 3,647 Times in 1,625 Posts
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
I wasn't arguing differences in HP between the two engines. I asked where these numbers even came from. I have seen manufactures overrate power numbers before. The SVT Mustang and RX8 are a few. But I have never seen someone rate an engine at one level and then give a lower number for at the crank power. The crank power IS the engine horse power so WTF is that 197hp? |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to x808drifter For This Useful Post: | brandonblt2 (12-16-2023) |
|
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
First autox in my GR86 | justinco | Tracking / Autocross / HPDE / Drifting | 10 | 05-30-2022 07:52 PM |
Why BRZ Over GR86? | Lelandjt | BRZ Second-Gen (2022+) -- General Topics | 45 | 12-26-2021 08:41 AM |
TOM'S GR86 Catalogue | DeeAich | GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) | 6 | 11-15-2021 12:14 AM |
GR86 PCD | teppey | GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) | 23 | 07-29-2021 11:12 PM |
GR86 In R7 of the Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup + GR86 coming to Grand Turismo Sport | Blighty | GR86 General Topics (2nd Gen 2022+ Toyota 86) | 37 | 07-18-2021 03:38 PM |