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I have to admit, that Tesla truck in white stainless looks like it is supposed to accomplish some revolutionary task with the triangular roofline, symmetrical front to rear. Aside from avoiding any curves, what does it accomplish? And I won't even begin to try to understand the rear cargo area. Will it take a 4x8 sheet of drywall and 1/2 ton cargo? Maybe they plan to injection mold the whole thing, incorperating a few hundred components into a single step.
Can Elon Musk switch off Starlink in your area if he wants? He really wants to show his support for Russia if he can, no doubt there is some big payback he is anticipating in the future if he does. North Korea has nukes, maybe he should kneel down and prostrate himself before Kim Jong Un as well?
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I didn't watch much of it after that, so if he did something more similar later I missed it.
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Most higher end cars change out stamped steel suspension for cast aluminum. There are other examples too. I don't think he is wrong that aluminum can be stronger in this form factor. Why? The piece can be engineered to be thicker and thinner in places, and it can have support webbing and bracing, but stamped steel needs to be welded or glued together and tends to be flatter. Plus, having the whole body made of aluminum has to lighten the car.
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so what happens when an entirely-cast car is in even a minor accident? it's all garbage. just like your cast aluminum grille.
there's no way to repair cast and ensure the structural integrity. when cast anything has forces applied to them beyond the design specs, they fracture in a million different ways. hit a curb, and chip an a-arm mount? car is garbage, because they can't repair the cast while ensuring the rest of the sub frame is not compromised.
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But, as @soundman98 states, once it is compromised and it needs repair, but the entire frame is a cast? I definitely see the benefit of it, and if I had my pick I'd rather be in the cast car than not, until it has to be repaired.
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You can check out a G20 BMW 3 series versus a Model Y gigacasting. The front impacts look similar to me and not worse for the Y. The front impact and front/side impact looks slightly better on the Y. The side impact is definitely better on the Y, thanks to the structure of the battery. These are all tests around 20-35mph, and the cars are mangled. The reality is the gigacastings are literally replacing hundreds of machines with a single machine, so this should amount to huge savings. This is why the whole industry is moving this direction.
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Posted these before too. Tesla does a lot for vehicle safety, but I think overall EVs will prove to be safer on average in impacts and avoiding rollovers. Tesla's cast rails are made to crumple progressively because the rails aren't uniform, as the first video shows. You can watch tons of videos to compare, but overall, I think the car will do better than the competition, and its crash safety rating reflects that.
As it pertains to Tesla, they use the vision system and fleet data to design algorithms for modifying the safety system. This means that the car can predict an impact before it happens, as apposed to just sensing an impact after it has happened, and it will know what object is hitting it and from what angle. If you weigh a certain amount, are a certain size, have the seats reclined a certain distance, are a certain age/size/weight, etc., the car can time when the airbags are deployed to catch you better. Cool shot under the car of a crash. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OxU7ukt19jI
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No doubt Tesla is doing some great things in manufacturing and safety. My biggest problem is they don't make a single model I would drive. If they did, I would likely already own one.
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I'm debating on selling my k24 turbo swapped BRZ for a Model 3 Highland, but I might wait until after we buy a house in the next year or so, and I'm reluctant because what I really would want is an electric Miata, Cayman or 86 sized sports car, but it just doesn't exist yet. How long do I have to wait? The next Cayman is electric, but will be too expense new for what I would send on a car. The next Miata is likely electric, but that won't come with everything I would like from a Tesla, but it could work. It is the most likely option. Will Toyota make a MR electric sports car? Maybe, but I doubt it is a priority for them. The 86 will likely have longer before it makes a switch. The Roadster is far into the future and just too expensive, so yeah, I'm in a similar boat as you.
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