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Old 04-01-2022, 11:22 AM   #729
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I would like to say I trust that Toyota is being smart about production, but every month that goes by where the few new allocations in my region are all or mostly AT... really has me scratching my head. I wonder if they let the final years sales data for first gen influence their '22 MY plans too much? 45% manual take rate.. probably average over the life of the first gen. If the later years leaned heavily AT to try to move more cars (since the enthusiasts had theirs by then) and they looked at those years to inform their production plans, that could be part of it.

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2021 1.153
2020 2.476
2019 3.398
2018 4.133
2017 6.846
2016 7.457
2015 10.507
2014 14.062
2013 18.327
2012 11.417

Then there's volume. Compound the uncertainty of not knowing whether anyone will actually want to buy the thing (I wouldn't have guessed it) with the obvious problems of the day, and yeah I wouldn't fault Toyota for not stretching to make 18,000 low-margin cars in 2022, despite people throwing money at them. They couldn't if they wanted to.

At the rate we're going, I could see there being fewer than 7000 22MY GR86 made for the US but I have no way to actually estimate. Really funny to realize I've gone through the stages of grief and am now at acceptance any good news will be a bonus.
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Old 04-01-2022, 12:06 PM   #730
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Placed my order back on 1/9 with no updates besides it potentially being in the next allocation for the last two months. What’s weird is that I’ve received both my NASA membership sign-up and my notification about ToyotaCare for an assigned VIN. Has this happened to others who haven’t received even confirmation that their allocation has been filled?
Update: Turns out my name was attached to a previously sold track bred base model, so back to feeling hopeless and returning to the waiting game.
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Old 04-01-2022, 01:06 PM   #731
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Update: Turns out my name was attached to a previously sold track bred base model, so back to feeling hopeless and returning to the waiting game.
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Old 04-01-2022, 01:38 PM   #732
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Yep! Garage will be usable this weekend, so timing turned out ok in the end.

Some better pics from earlier, now for the break in period...



Oo that blue in your pics pops much better than I've seen, sorta reminiscent of the old EM1 Si Electron blue or Viper blue, or WRB for that matter. I know it's darker in person, but that's one of the more flattering pics of that color I've seen.
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Old 04-01-2022, 01:48 PM   #733
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Yep! Garage will be usable this weekend, so timing turned out ok in the end.

Some better pics from earlier, now for the break in period...
Congrats!

Any evidence of what they were doing during the QC hold?
Minor scratches around the turn signal stalk or elsewhere in the interior?
Pulled the engine out to replace the passenger side gaskets? (there are a couple of people of FB who had some oil leaking on the header)
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Can someone check my Vin? Getting anxious.

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Old 04-01-2022, 06:55 PM   #735
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Congrats!

Any evidence of what they were doing during the QC hold?
Minor scratches around the turn signal stalk or elsewhere in the interior?
Pulled the engine out to replace the passenger side gaskets? (there are a couple of people of FB who had some oil leaking on the header)
Not that I have seen, but I haven't really looked that close either. Dealer didn't say what the QC hold was about, or anything at all.
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Not that I have seen, but I haven't really looked that close either. Dealer didn't say what the QC hold was about, or anything at all.
I asked My dealer as well and they acted like they had no clue. Actually mine acted like they didn’t even know it was on quality hold
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Are a significant amount of cars sitting in QC hold?
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Oo that blue in your pics pops much better than I've seen, sorta reminiscent of the old EM1 Si Electron blue or Viper blue, or WRB for that matter. I know it's darker in person, but that's one of the more flattering pics of that color I've seen.

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Congrats!

Any evidence of what they were doing during the QC hold?
Minor scratches around the turn signal stalk or elsewhere in the interior?
Pulled the engine out to replace the passenger side gaskets? (there are a couple of people of FB who had some oil leaking on the header)



In my experience ordering other vehicles, QC holds are either randomized or targeted after finding an issue on a vehicle one specific randomized qc check.


I wouldn't necessarily worry about it, but you could really escalate if you wanted to and see if they reveal what they found or why it was on QC hold.


I think that this will happen more often during and post pandemic as they are already behind in production but can't just stop the whole factory line to make an adjustment.
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At the rate we're going, I could see there being fewer than 7000 22MY GR86 made for the US but I have no way to actually estimate.
https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-...2022-us-sales/

3257 GR86s sold in Q1.. could be 10-15k for the year..

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Am I out of luck in terms of getting one before the Fall?
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Am I out of luck in terms of getting one before the Fall?
It should depend on when and maybe where you put a deposit down. But unfortunately it’s probably way too random to say. The smaller the dealer you have a deposit with, the less likely. Having multiple deposits should help.
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