No 2021 model

[Dirty Harry]

Get your point. It’ll still be cool if @14stu comes back with some info. C’mon Stuey!!

PS - I’ve been in IT for 21 years so I get the data driven profession

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Get your point. It’ll still be cool if @14stu comes back with some info.

Yes, yes it would.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by quik1987

Reminds me of the GRMN Sports FR

wtf how come i never seen that before.....

it always made me wonder where the hell those design elements come from (and yes the bestcar link, not MagX i mentioned or whatever the hell the mag source is)

And now i know why those renders look like they do.

Also...that concept came out in 2013.......would they really use design elements from that now? it has no family resemblance to current toyota design language

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

it has no family resemblance to current toyota design language

Good.

[quik1987]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

wtf how come i never seen that before.....

it always made me wonder where the hell those design elements come from (and yes the bestcar link, not MagX i mentioned or whatever the hell the mag source is)

And now i know why those renders look like they do.

Also...that concept came out in 2013.......would they really use design elements from that now? it has no family resemblance to current toyota design language

What about this one?

[dpfarr]

Whatever happens I hope the twins fade away before they burn up in some convertible edition.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by quik1987

What about this one?

Put the current front end on this car and I would buy it today, even though I have no plans for a second 86.

Oh, and it needs louvers.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Depends on how you look at it.

1. You’ve got @14stu who is an instructor at a track with a mate who is the track manager, who has told him about the Toyota event. I doubt he’s made it up. He’s been a member since 2014 with over 500 posts, unless you think he’s coming on here to deliberately talk shit?

2. You’ve got @gymratter who is also a member on the Supra forum and from his past experience has found the Supra forum member Supra93 has been a source of reliable information early.

I do get your point of view being cynical with rubbish articles and the like, but I’m still interested at what comes from the above 2. I doubt @14stu has posted 500 odd posts to come on here to make up a story about a track manager and Toyota etc. Unless he’s done it before? You’ve been a member longer than me Still curious to see what comes of it. The Supra93 guy, he appears to release info early looking at the other forum, which has apparently been accurate.

I guess you have to weigh it up, either way I’d be interested to hear what they have to say. Remember they’re not motoring.com.au journalists after clicks for extra income. Unless you think they’re trolls or after some sort of notoriety... What’s your view on the above 2?

finally someone that reads between the lines. this is the 1st im hearing about 14stu, but as we all know SupraMKV mod posted both official pics and pricing days before the unveiling. so in my book that makes someone pretty credible.

Originally Posted by quik1987

What about this one?

[vh_supra26]

I use work for click-bait media for a short time. Here is my insight. Let's use the Supra for example.

2011
Toyota wants to bring back a halo sports car. Marketing team contacts media with vague info to gauge public reaction.

Media speculates that it must be a new Supra and it will probably use Toyota's NA 3.5 V6 for the base model and the V8 in the F line as a high-performance version. Media uses old FT-HS concept for photoshop to show their readers what it could look like.

2012
Toyota starts talking to BMW and Calty Design Research starts working on a sports car concept. The two are unrelated at this time. Toyota announces BMW partnership for a midsize sports car.

Media goes crazy and reports its most likely going to be a new Supra and it will use BMW's I6.

2014
Toyota unveils FT-1.

Media, it’s definitely a preview of the next Supra and Z4, but the Supra will be larger because the platform is scalable. Media also starts predicting release date, drivetrains, and making crazy renderings from the FT1.

2016
Toyota, two years later prototypes are finally spotted.

Media makes even more ugly renders.

2017-2018
Toyota throws out a few "leaks". Ex like auto only. Again to gauge public reaction.

Media, we need clicks so we're going to publish it along with our own twist, spins, and speculation to complete the puzzle if you will. Ex the Supra will only be initially offered as an auto, however, we do expect a manual option at a later date.

2019
Toyota, three years after the spy shots the Supra is unveiled at Detroit.

Media, no one gives a shit because the mid-engine C8 is just around the corner.

And the cycle repeats itself.

Edited again lol..

I also forgot to add that the big names like MotorTrend, C&D, Road & Track, Autoblog etc. are given a copy of the press release and certain sets of press photos before the unveiling. It gives them time to write their articles in advance. Sometimes they are even invited to the design studio or HQ to take their own photos, have a behind the scenes look, and Q&A with officials from the company.

With the photos, let’s say there are a total of 140 official press photos that will go along with the press release. What usually happens is each news site only received XX amounts of pics. So if there are any photo leaks the automaker can pin point where it came from and that media is most likely black listed for a certain amount of time.

I know a number of people here despise the clickbait media and believes everything they report is 100% BS (and that maybe the case more so with certain publications) and that automakers hate them for reporting this and that (only when they leak things they aren't suppose too) but automakers and the auto media mutually benefits from one another. Auto media needs info and spy shots to write articles with and automakers need the media to gauge public reaction and hype their upcoming products.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by quik1987

What about this one?

ive seen that one
Its a typical case of the fascias dont fit the body of the car.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by dpfarr

Whatever happens I hope the twins fade away before they burn up in some convertible edition.

Subaru already said they won’t build a car that doesn’t meet their safety requirements. That all but rules out a convertible.

IIRC Subaru had to publish instructions on how to cut through the B-pillars on new Subarus, because firefighters were unable to get through them in an acceptable time. Subaru makes one of the strongest passenger cells in the industry.

[14stu]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Yes, yes it would.

I'm signed up for the Supra technical showcase at the track tomorrow and I'll share any info I find out there.

#Tcoat is absolutely right that this is second hand info, and I was hesitant to share anything since it's all unsubstantiated; however, my buddy got me excited with his insider info (he has no reason to string me along with any false info and offered it because I'm known as an 86 advocate).

You have no reason to take my info as gospel, and all I know for sure is that the "new" 86 will be at the track very soon for some sort of media/advertising event that I might be able to "incidentally" be at the track for. My friend specifically mentioned an increase in power and that the test driver was very happy with the new car but didn't offer or respond to my probing for any specifics. He neither confirmed nor denied the 2.4L motor when I brought it up.

That's all I've got atm, I'll update whenever I find out more. All this is presented in good faith, make of it what you will.

[soundman98]

despise is the wrong word.

there is a distinct difference between posting a quick article about a press release straight from the oem stating that they confirm that a new model is coming, and speculation about which engine, transmission, or price it will be released with.

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by soundman98

despise is the wrong word.

there is a distinct difference between posting a quick article about a press release straight from the oem stating that they confirm that a new model is coming, and speculation about which engine, transmission, or price it will be released with.

Right, again in the early stage that's all they can do for the most part. The good stuff usually doesn't appear until closer to launch date.