No 2021 model

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Oh a site moderator. It is official then. Nobody but a true insider expert can moderate a forum.
A year from now something will show up and if close you will say they knew. If not nobody will say shit and their inaccurate info will be brushed aside.
It is the way of the internet.

the guy gave us both pricing and official pics before the unveiling and press release. not saying the guy is infallible, but he definitely has a track record to go on.

the shoes goes on the foot as well. all the times insiders ynguldyn and A70TTR were right you seem to always reply with "if you throw enough shit on the wall some of it will stick". i can admit there are trolls on the net and that the click-bait media isn't always correct, but it seems you think everyone and everything on the web is fake news. i can definitely see your POV as well. anyone can make an account and claim xyz. its not easy to separate the trolls from the legitimate sources. all i can say is the people that have been mention haven't left us astray; in the end we'll have to make up our own minds and choose who or what to believe.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by gymratter

inside on our sister forum did say it was a test mule for 2nd gen 86.

Do you have a link? I tried googling it but no dice.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Do you have a link? I tried googling it but no dice.

here you go.

[drew_kar]

Originally Posted by gymratter

the guy gave us both pricing and official pics before the unveiling and press release. not saying the guy is infallible, but he definitely has a track record to go on.

the shoes goes on the foot as well. all the times insiders ynguldyn and A70TTR were right you seem to always reply with "if you throw enough shit on the wall some of it will stick". i can admit there are trolls on the net and that the click-bait media isn't always correct, but it seems you think everyone and everything on the web is fake news. i can definitely see your POV as well. anyone can make an account and claim xyz. its not easy to separate the trolls from the legitimate sources. all i can say is the people that have been mention haven't left us astray; in the end we'll have to make up our own minds and choose who or what to believe.

I concur with your mention of insiders. Even our very own Guff was a tremendous resource and liaison between Toyota and the enthusiasts for the new supra.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Do you have a link? I tried googling it but no dice.

Nothing important in this link. The test mule car is even dated before the press release of a joint development for a next-generation .

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by drew_kar

I concur with your mention of insiders. Even our very own Guff was a tremendous resource and liaison between Toyota and the enthusiasts for the new supra.

can't forget about ichitaka05

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Nothing important in this link. The test mule car is even dated before the press release of a joint development for a next-generation .

yeah i don't think we'll see anything major until we're closer to the launch date. the PR is Sep. 27, 2019 and spy shots are Oct. 15, 2019.

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Not convinced they can order new ones even in Germany. Materials are sort of ambiguous.

We don't have a performance package option here. No need for Brembo brakes or Sachs suspension parts. It seems to me strange to make all the effort getting an approval for the new regulations, to print new booklets for July 2020 and onwards, to update the country's central site and say after a few days WE STOP PRODUCTION. At same time it is even more weird hearing (coincidence?) that new BRZ might not be offered in Japan at all. Subaru will continue sell it only overseas. Only the 86 will be available in their domestic market.

[quik1987]

Originally Posted by gymratter

do you mean the ones from Bestcar?

Reminds me of the GRMN Sports FR

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Nothing important in this link. The test mule car is even dated before the press release of a joint development for a next-generation .

I think @gymratter was referring to Supra93’s confirmation of the Test Mule being the next gen. It’s on the last page on the link posted and it had a “nodding head” emoticon. Refer screen shot.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

I think @gymratter was referring to Supra93’s confirmation of the Test Mule being the next gen. It’s on the last page on the link posted and it had a “nodding head” emoticon. Refer screen shot.

LOL so the "source" of information from the other forum is this forum and then they say that the other forum said it is true. WOW.

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

LOL so the "source" of information from the other forum is this forum and then they say that the other forum said it is true. WOW.

Lol. Yeah I suppose it is funny when you look at it like that. But I think you’ve got it.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Lol. Yeah I suppose it is funny when you look at it like that. But I think you’ve got it.

And then the clickbaits will grab the "info" off one or both forums and it becomes "an unnamed insider" when they write the story.
Starting to see why I am so cynical about the accuracy of so many things presented as "facts" now?

[Dirty Harry]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

And then the clickbaits will grab the "info" off one or both forums and it becomes "an unnamed insider" when they write the story.
Starting to see why I am so cynical about the accuracy of so many things presented as "facts" now?

Depends on how you look at it.

1. You’ve got @14stu who is an instructor at a track with a mate who is the track manager, who has told him about the Toyota event. I doubt he’s made it up. He’s been a member since 2014 with over 500 posts, unless you think he’s coming on here to deliberately talk shit?

2. You’ve got @gymratter who is also a member on the Supra forum and from his past experience has found the Supra forum member Supra93 has been a source of reliable information early.

I do get your point of view being cynical with rubbish articles and the like, but I’m still interested at what comes from the above 2. I doubt @14stu has posted 500 odd posts to come on here to make up a story about a track manager and Toyota etc. Unless he’s done it before? You’ve been a member longer than me Still curious to see what comes of it. The Supra93 guy, he appears to release info early looking at the other forum, which has apparently been accurate.

I guess you have to weigh it up, either way I’d be interested to hear what they have to say. Remember they’re not motoring.com.au journalists after clicks for extra income. Unless you think they’re trolls or after some sort of notoriety... What’s your view on the above 2?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Dirty Harry

Depends on how you look at it.

1. You’ve got @14stu who is an instructor at a track with a mate who is the track manager, who has told him about the Toyota event. I doubt he’s made it up. He’s been a member since 2014 with over 500 posts, unless you think he’s coming on here to deliberately talk shit?

2. You’ve got @gymratter who is also a member on the Supra forum and from his past experience has found the Supra forum member Supra93 has been a source of reliable information early.

I do get your point of view being cynical with rubbish articles and the like, but I’m still interested at what comes from the above 2. I doubt @14stu has posted 500 odd posts to come on here to make up a story about a track manager and Toyota etc. Unless he’s done it before? You’ve been a member longer than me Still curious to see what comes of it. The Supra93 guy, he has appears to release info early looking at the other forum, which has apparently been accurate.

I guess you have to weigh it up, either way I’d be interested to hear what they have to say. Remember they’re not motoring.com.au journalists after clicks for extra income. Unless they’re trolls or after some sort of notoriety... What’s your view on the above 2?

It is a classic case of a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy that knows a guy that say's....
No I do not think for one second that he is making stuff up but that doesn't mean the "information" he is receiving is accurate nor true. I will strongly congratulate him if the info is true but I just simply do not believe it at this point.

I have not gone back through the Supra site o see how much of the info provided proved to be false but it is easy to say somebody was "close" or "right" if they keep updating and changing their statements. Everybody wants to believe what supports their own thoughts so it is easy to pass over the stuff that was wrong and only remember what was right.

My profession over the last 30 years has been data driven. In that I have come to disbelieve anything not supported by facts from an official source. There have been literally thousands of things present on this forum (and the Supra) as "fact" over the years that turned out to be way off base. Speculation may be fun but when information i given as fact without support then it is useless. If the people stating these things want to back it up in some manner then cool but otherwise I will continue to think of them as some kid in their parents basement that reads a bunch of article and then presents his opinion as real information.
It is fun that we have been told annually by "insiders" that there will be, without a single doubt, a turbo coming next year every single year since 2013. How are people enjoying their 2014 turbo cars?

All in all everybody has a right to express their opinion here and everybody else has the right to counter it. They expressed theirs and I countered with mine. I will continue to counter until proven wrong or vindicated by the facts and reality.