New RACING short shifter from Individual Racing Parts

[icybrzzz]

Originally Posted by The Racers Line

So, I actually really like the Kartboy shifter's feel. I used to use one, with a killer bee shifter riser, and a taller knob, to basically get the height of where this IRP shifter is. It was a great setup...the IRP blows it out of the water. Percentage wise, its probably another 30-40% reduction in throw. I describe it, as precise as flipping a switch, it's an incredibly satisfying feeling.

This sounds promising! Anyone else have thoughts/reviews on this shifter? I was eyeing the CAE shifter, but this fits my budget much better! I also don't want to feel like I'm "settling" by going for the cheaper shifter.

Would be cool if someone thats owned or tried both could give honest opinions.

[TeutonicShift89]

Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk

A bit off-topic. That heel-toe... I mean its heel-toe alright, but never did I though possible to do it like that (heel on brakes, toes on the accelerator pipe that goes up).

Funny I thought the same thing when I saw it. Tried to imitate it the next day on way to work and--well, I'm much smoother doing it my way, straddling the brake with my big toe/ball of foot and rolling the side of my foot to the gas


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[Tor]

Originally Posted by Icecreamtruk

A bit off-topic. That heel-toe... I mean its heel-toe alright, but never did I though possible to do it like that (heel on brakes, toes on the accelerator pipe that goes up).

Originally Posted by TeutonicShift89

Funny I thought the same thing when I saw it. Tried to imitate it the next day on way to work and--well, I'm much smoother doing it my way, straddling the brake with my big toe/ball of foot and rolling the side of my foot to the gas

The pro way of doing it:
[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DhtCbSayj0"]Ricky Rudd :: 1994 Sears Point :: Onboard, Pedal Cam - YouTube[/ame]

Cusco pedal extends further upwards than stock:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLEXIQDXSE"]Cusco Sport Accelerator Pedal - for easier heal & toe downshifts - YouTube[/ame]

Ok, back to topic.

[Brzerker]

Originally Posted by The Racers Line

So, I actually really like the Kartboy shifter's feel. I used to use one, with a killer bee shifter riser, and a taller knob, to basically get the height of where this IRP shifter is. It was a great setup...the IRP blows it out of the water. Percentage wise, its probably another 30-40% reduction in throw. I describe it, as precise as flipping a switch, it's an incredibly satisfying feeling.

This sounds so awesome. Do you guys think this is suitable to daily driving though?

[Tor]

Originally Posted by Brzerker

This sounds so awesome. Do you guys think this is suitable to daily driving though?

It depends on what you value? Same as with other upgrades, like coilovers, bushings, exhaust etc. Some will prefer stock suspension and quiet exhaust. Others are perfectly fine with a hard suspension and a loud exhaust as an example. It will be more noisy since it rigidly mounted.

From an operating perspective, I don't see a disadvantage. Even if just driving the car to work I enjoy the feel of the shifter. The stock shifter is undoubtedly good, but this is just another feeling. It's purely subjective, but there is a certain unexplainable satisfaction of the "thumbs" when it goes into gear. See the video I posted earlier:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IR5mW7YT2s"]IRP-Germany shifter - YouTube[/ame]

[TeutonicShift89]

Originally Posted by Tor

Cusco pedal extends further upwards than stock:



Ok, back to topic.

I have this pedal, too! Helps my narrow size 10 feet "straddle" that gap between gas and brake.

[TeutonicShift89]

Someone brought up the material earlier--but Tor, if you parked this car outside in places that regularly reach 80-90 degrees F ambient, would you have any concerns about burning your hands on the lever?

[Tor]

Originally Posted by TeutonicShift89

Someone brought up the material earlier--but Tor, if you parked this car outside in places that regularly reach 80-90 degrees F ambient, would you have any concerns about burning your hands on the lever?

I can't say as it is winter here. I've been driving the car in 32 F and initially it's pretty cold to touch. But about the same time the engine is up to temperature the shifter is as well.

I am guessing that it won't be particularly warm from just being in 90 F. Rather I would imagine it to feel cooler. If it's in direct sunlight I can imagine it might get hot, though I doubt it would get burning. After all it's aluminum, not cast iron.

[Brzerker]

Originally Posted by Tor

It depends on what you value? Same as with other upgrades, like coilovers, bushings, exhaust etc. Some will prefer stock suspension and quiet exhaust. Others are perfectly fine with a hard suspension and a loud exhaust as an example. It will be more noisy since it rigidly mounted.

From an operating perspective, I don't see a disadvantage. Even if just driving the car to work I enjoy the feel of the shifter. The stock shifter is undoubtedly good, but this is just another feeling. It's purely subjective, but there is a certain unexplainable satisfaction of the "thumbs" when it goes into gear. See the video I posted earlier:

Personally, I am all for improving whatever the car is already good at. One being the ergonomics, as long as it does not get too obnoxious.

If it does improves the experience without much drawbacks, this shall be on the "next mod" list.

Thanks for taking the time to make the videos and posts!

[TeutonicShift89]

Tor, this is a brilliant shifter in my mind, and I love things that are beautifully crafted and pleasant to use. There are some minor mods needed to fit this shifter in place like cutting the console tunnel a bit. But once installed can you think of any added maintenance or complexity this shifter might require beyond the stock shifter? Seems to be simpler in many ways to me.


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[sw20kosh]

How do we get rid of the rattle at high rpms?

[redlined600]

Thanks @Tor and @The Racers Line for the info!

Looks like a decent (cheaper) alternative to the cae. I really wish it had a replaceable knob, I'm not so down with a metallic one.

[churchx]

even if shifter would have been changed to allow replaceable knobs, those might be hard to find, as given current shifter construction it would also need empty center for reverse button, which would probably strike out most of them.
So it's remove current solid knob top from lever, replace with theading and to find or manufacture own custom knobs with place for reverse button ..
Or imho much simpler to do - make current solid one-piece-with lever knob a bit thinner and add possibility to put on some simple & cheap basic delrin/rubber/leather wrap/slip-on sleeve on top of it.

[redlined600]

You're not wrong, but you read way too far into that. My point stands though.