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Old 03-19-2014, 11:54 PM   #239
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One thing people don't consider when they talk about guns killing people in relation to relatively high crime rates in the U.S. in comparison to say, the UK, is that the way murders are measured is different.

This article is quite enlightening on the subject:

http://rboatright.blogspot.com/2013/...der-rates.html

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"I have frequently in this series referred to the English murder rates as historically low and currently very low compared to US murder rates. I blandly accepted the murder statistics published by the UK Home Office as definitive. I overlooked the details of what and how the English counted "murders." It turns out that was a big mistake.

I fell into a definitions trap you may not be aware of. The shortest version is this. We count and report crimes based on initial data. The Brits count and report crimes based on the outcome of the investigation and trial. Yep, that says what I meant it to say.

In the US, the count of people murdered kept by the FBI is pretty darned straightforward. Got a body, not natural causes, not suicide? Must be murder of one sort or another. Count it.

So, if you ask the FBI, they will tell you that for 2011 there were 14,022 murders or non-negligent manslaughters. On the same line of that chart, they tell us the population was 292,364,075 which gives us a "murder" rate of 4.8 per 100,000 population. Those counts are based on crimes reported by local police agencies. They say nothing about the clearance rate, nor if anyone was ever identified or charged or convicted or whatever. Body, not natural, not negligent, homicide. Duh.

Now, on to England. It turns out that the Home office is very restrictive in what they report as "murders." Still, looking at the detailed report for 2010/2011 the Home office tells us that in the reporting period there were 636 murders "provisionally recorded" for a murder rate of 1.15 per 100,000 --- less than 1/3 the murder rate in the US."

[If you look at what were likely murders in the UK that didn't yet result in convictions, then] "The murder rate in the UK according to US standards is double or higher than their reported rate. It may be impossible to produce an actual apples to apples comparison number from official sources. It is not 15% of the US rate."
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:57 PM   #240
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As far as my household:

Sig P250 Compact 9mm
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Old 04-03-2014, 11:33 PM   #241
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This is my favorite thread! Gotta take some more pictures. This one is hot off the press, just finished this pistol build last week.
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I have a DD mk18. It is a sweet shooter that is for sure.
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I have about 20 guns and I don't believe you can have to many. Still waiting for another 5 tax stamps to come in. Here are a few of them I took to the range today.



Pictured is my specialized dynamics 6.5 grendel w/ Acog and Gemtech quicksand titanium suppressor, another 6.5 grendel I built, Specialized Dynamics .223 on dti lower, MP Core .40 with rmr green dot (waiting for my thread adapter for my gemtech blackside to come in to suppress it) and a .223 ar pistol.

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So I went to the shooting range yesterday and I saw this guy with a neat rifle.

It was brown and shot relatively small sized bullets. Hardly made much of a sound either compared to the gun I was using at the time (SCAR).

Hope to be packin' some heat soon. When shit hits the fan I want to be prepared because the way some of the people shot.. damn.. I'd be first to die. lol
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Wait wait wait you shot a SCAR? i am insanely jelly right now.
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Nice AR pistol @pche. Currently waiting on a rail to finish up mine.

SCAR? There's other rifles in .223 I prefer. SCAR-H? I'd rather have a FAL. Really I'd prefer an AK, but can't get those in MD anymore...
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Nice AR pistol @pche. Currently waiting on a rail to finish up mine.

SCAR? There's other rifles in .223 I prefer. SCAR-H? I'd rather have a FAL. Really I'd prefer an AK, but can't get those in MD anymore...
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So you can have ARs but not AKs in MD? Is it because they're imported? Even if 922r compliance?

BTW, IMHO, Scar H is a far superior weapon over the FAL. Had a HK91, that thing was a dream. Wish I never sold it but the price was too good to turn down.
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Too bad this wasn't a "guns, knives and nice watches" thread.
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Too bad this wasn't a "guns, knives and nice watches" thread.
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