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Old 02-02-2023, 12:59 PM   #15
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What is the door check issue?
The door does not stay open?
I would like to fix this, if possible
Please advise.
Yeah on flat ground the door will shut instead of staying open. Sucks worse in a caged track/race car to have it shut on your leg/hand when climbing over the door bars.
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I am looking at a 2014 BRZ Limited... however, it's got about 155K on it. The Clutch was done at around 106k. Thankfully, this car is a timing chain and not belt.

As far as I know, so far, everything is stock thankfully. So, my questions are...

What should I be looking for with that kind of mileage as far as long-term issues?

Is there anything that is no longer available for this car that could be a potential issue?

I learned the hard way with an 84 RX7 a few years ago, A LOT was no longer available to replace. I know this BRZ is going to be only 9 years old, but... have to ask.
Why are we thankful it's a timing chain and not a belt?
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I guess you've never had a car with a timing belt.
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Old 02-03-2023, 08:46 AM   #18
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I guess you've never had a car with a timing belt.
Nor one with an interference engine.
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With a timing belt.
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Nor one with an interference engine.
Many, in fact.
Question stands.
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I've had one break on a GTI. Bent 18 valves. Had to replace the head.
Had one break on a CRX Si. No damage. Just replaced the belt.
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And chains are much harder to break than a rubber band.
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Many, in fact.
Question stands.
My first car was a 3rd Gen Eclipse. 2000 car. Happened in 05.
The belt snapped on the freeway one night.
11 vales bent. 1 piston damaged enough to need replacement.
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And chains are much harder to break than a rubber band.
Blanket statement is blanket.
The ONLY timing system I ever had break was a chain.
Chains are not impervious to stretchy and breakage. They have a life expectancy and many can't even make it that long.
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My first car was a 3rd Gen Eclipse. 2000 car. Happened in 05.
The belt snapped on the freeway one night.
11 vales bent. 1 piston damaged enough to need replacement.
And? Would the damage have been less if it was a chain that broke?
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Blanket statement is blanket.
The ONLY timing system I ever had break was a chain.
Chains are not impervious to stretchy and breakage. They have a life expectancy and many can't even make it that long.
How the hell did you do that?
What kind of car was it?
I've had chain tensioners wear but how do you break a timing chain? Massive boost with no oil?
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How the hell did you do that?
What kind of car was it?
I've had chain tensioners wear but how do you break a timing chain? Massive boost with no oil?
It's just the classic "I had this experience so it is so" argument. Anecdotal, nothing more.

I've dealt with hundreds of engines, belt and chain. In general I find chains to be far more reliable. There are systems out there that have issues, looking at you 22re, but for the most part a chain is more durable. The issue with the chain is it and it's components are not easily serviceable and more likely to be neglected, though for the most part they are considered lifetime parts and don't even have called out service intervals in many engines I have come across. They do typically have wear limits that are specified. My opinion, also anecdotal, so take it for what it's worth.
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Civic S - Water pump froze up and broke the timing belt that was driving it. Bent valves.

Typically, an automotive timing chain is running in the engine interior oil bath.
That's a very benign environment for them as long as you change the oil.

Bicycle and motorcycle drive chains are usually out in the dust and grit that requires they be replaced periodically.

There have been timing chain recalls for BMW, Audi, Nissan, Chevy and MINI.
Most of those have been due to cost cutting and under specification in design.
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