follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 2nd Gens: GR86 and BRZ > BRZ Second-Gen (2022+) -- General Topics

BRZ Second-Gen (2022+) -- General Topics General topics for the second-gen BRZ


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 12-01-2021, 07:03 AM   #15
emce
Member
 
emce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Drives: 22 BRZ Limited
Location: Colorado
Posts: 41
Thanks: 4
Thanked 22 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Some comparisons in this thread to the 1st gen trans, which I never owned, so I'm curious how this transmissions feels to other owners in absolute terms.

Overall I'm finding it very smooth, and I don't really get a lot of notchy-ness or resistance once it's warmed up. It actually seems to prefer being shifted fast - I can shift between upper gears as fast as I want and without being super thoughtful about it with zero complaining from the car.

The one exception I have is going from 1st to 2nd... I can't for the life of me seem to hit that shift correctly most of the time without resulting in some level of lurch. Interestingly to me, this seems more exaggerated once the car is nice and warmed up. Is that pretty normal with these transmissions or am I the problem? I don't think I'm dumping the clutch too fast, letting the revs drop too much, etc... I can't seem to baby it enough to get it smooth.
emce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2021, 07:59 AM   #16
Frost
CASC-OR T.A. Director
 
Frost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Drives: '13 Prius, '22 BRZ
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,547
Thanks: 393
Thanked 864 Times in 563 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by emce View Post
Some comparisons in this thread to the 1st gen trans, which I never owned, so I'm curious how this transmissions feels to other owners in absolute terms.

Overall I'm finding it very smooth, and I don't really get a lot of notchy-ness or resistance once it's warmed up. It actually seems to prefer being shifted fast - I can shift between upper gears as fast as I want and without being super thoughtful about it with zero complaining from the car.

The one exception I have is going from 1st to 2nd... I can't for the life of me seem to hit that shift correctly most of the time without resulting in some level of lurch. Interestingly to me, this seems more exaggerated once the car is nice and warmed up. Is that pretty normal with these transmissions or am I the problem? I don't think I'm dumping the clutch too fast, letting the revs drop too much, etc... I can't seem to baby it enough to get it smooth.
Wanna post a video of you doing this? Hard to say from just text.
__________________
Want the best quality track times for new personal bests? Come on out to Ontario Time Attack!!!

OTA LIVE TIMING LINK
Frost is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Frost For This Useful Post:
timurrrr (12-01-2021)
Old 12-01-2021, 09:59 AM   #17
Pat
Senior Member
 
Pat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Drives: 2014 BRZ
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 1,735
Thanks: 1,430
Thanked 1,155 Times in 627 Posts
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by s30series View Post
I guess according to x808drifter the car wasn't the problem



So what was? The transmission?
I have no idea in his case.
In my case, yes, the transmission was the problem.
__________________
Pat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2021, 10:30 AM   #18
emce
Member
 
emce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Drives: 22 BRZ Limited
Location: Colorado
Posts: 41
Thanks: 4
Thanked 22 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frost View Post
Wanna post a video of you doing this? Hard to say from just text.

Totally - I'll upload one this weekend when I have a friend handy. It sounds like from your perspective, though, that this isn't kind of a known thing with the transmission which rules out a fast answer. Thanks!
emce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2021, 02:03 PM   #19
Frost
CASC-OR T.A. Director
 
Frost's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Drives: '13 Prius, '22 BRZ
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 1,547
Thanks: 393
Thanked 864 Times in 563 Posts
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by emce View Post
Totally - I'll upload one this weekend when I have a friend handy. It sounds like from your perspective, though, that this isn't kind of a known thing with the transmission which rules out a fast answer. Thanks!
Whoa nelly, no no no, I haven't driven the new car yet.

But I do have tons of experience in slipping the clutch or lurching.

In my old AP2 S2000, it had a clutch delay valve which forced me to slow down my shifts especially 1 -> 2. Once I got rid of it, it was gone. NOT saying the Gen2 twin has it but I've experienced things that make it difficult to do a quick shift from 1st to 2nd.
__________________
Want the best quality track times for new personal bests? Come on out to Ontario Time Attack!!!

OTA LIVE TIMING LINK
Frost is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-01-2021, 03:49 PM   #20
emce
Member
 
emce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Drives: 22 BRZ Limited
Location: Colorado
Posts: 41
Thanks: 4
Thanked 22 Times in 10 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frost View Post
But I do have tons of experience in slipping the clutch or lurching.

In my old AP2 S2000, it had a clutch delay valve which forced me to slow down my shifts especially 1 -> 2. Once I got rid of it, it was gone. NOT saying the Gen2 twin has it but I've experienced things that make it difficult to do a quick shift from 1st to 2nd.

I just got out over lunch and did a lot of experimentation... I think a couple of things are going on... I'm use to taller first gears and I think I'm just winding it out too much for how unaggressively I'm driving it most times. I'm also trying to protect the clutch too much, and need to let it slip a little more as it syncs up to 2nd. I'll keep playing with it... it does seem a bit touchy to me but I think I can compensate for that with how I manage my shifts.


Thanks for the offer to review and give feedback!
emce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2021, 05:30 PM   #21
slimfit
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: ‘22 BRZ
Location: Delco, PA
Posts: 73
Thanks: 126
Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quick question, has anyone noticed a thunk going into 1st from neutral? Sometimes in other gears as well. Feels like the synchros maybe. Nothing crazy just enough to notice it.
slimfit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2021, 05:48 PM   #22
timurrrr
Senior Member
 
timurrrr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Drives: 2022 GR86
Location: Between Sonoma and Laguna Seca
Posts: 1,676
Thanks: 2,108
Thanked 1,250 Times in 694 Posts
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by slimfit View Post
Quick question, has anyone noticed a thunk going into 1st from neutral? Sometimes in other gears as well. Feels like the synchros maybe. Nothing crazy just enough to notice it.
At standstill? I believe that's normal for MT's.
timurrrr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2021, 05:54 PM   #23
slimfit
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: ‘22 BRZ
Location: Delco, PA
Posts: 73
Thanks: 126
Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Yep, at standstill and sometimes while rolling. None of my other manual cars did that. This is my 4th.
slimfit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2021, 05:57 PM   #24
Yoshoobaroo
TRACKBREAD
 
Yoshoobaroo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,908
Thanks: 2,652
Thanked 3,996 Times in 1,881 Posts
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Itís because the gears in the transmission are still spinning after you push the clutch in, and putting it in gear forces them to stop. If you wait a second after clutching in they will spin down naturally and it wonít clunk.
Yoshoobaroo is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Yoshoobaroo For This Useful Post:
slimfit (12-02-2021)
Old 12-02-2021, 06:04 PM   #25
timurrrr
Senior Member
 
timurrrr's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2019
Drives: 2022 GR86
Location: Between Sonoma and Laguna Seca
Posts: 1,676
Thanks: 2,108
Thanked 1,250 Times in 694 Posts
Mentioned: 28 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by slimfit View Post
None of my other manual cars did that.
My '17 BRZ does that, my gf's '19 Miata does that.
timurrrr is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to timurrrr For This Useful Post:
slimfit (12-02-2021)
Old 12-02-2021, 06:20 PM   #26
slimfit
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: ‘22 BRZ
Location: Delco, PA
Posts: 73
Thanks: 126
Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I’ll chalk it up to normal. Thanks guys!
slimfit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2021, 06:21 PM   #27
Interceptor777
Senior Member
 
Interceptor777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Drives: 2022 BRZ, 1999 "touge-spec" Miata
Location: MD
Posts: 151
Thanks: 31
Thanked 110 Times in 54 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by timurrrr View Post
My '17 BRZ does that, my gf's '19 Miata does that.
Count my 1999 Miata in there as well.
Interceptor777 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Interceptor777 For This Useful Post:
slimfit (12-02-2021)
Old 12-02-2021, 07:51 PM   #28
slimfit
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Drives: ‘22 BRZ
Location: Delco, PA
Posts: 73
Thanks: 126
Thanked 47 Times in 25 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Hmmm, I should mention this is my first manual RWD car. Maybe it’s a trait of that?
slimfit is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
BRZ/FRS AZ6 Manual Trans Upgraded Gearset RockySDS Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 169 09-15-2022 08:55 PM
What Manual Trans Fluid Do You Use? McG86 CANADA 50 03-22-2020 08:19 PM
FRS/BRZ Manual Trans Fluid shellslinger Mechanical Maintenance (Oil, Fluids, Break-In, Servicing) 131 11-02-2017 10:44 AM
Manual Trans 12k miles $750 OBO Amir Ghadiri Transmission and Driveline 4 05-23-2015 02:35 PM
Bump start in a manual trans? bayank BRZ First-Gen (2012+) -- General Topics 11 02-16-2014 06:47 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:31 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2023 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.