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Old 12-25-2023, 08:47 PM   #15
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Interesting video.

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Old 12-26-2023, 09:17 AM   #16
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Interesting video.

Everybody has seen that video where have you been? There is another video of a guy spirited driving in the canyons with minimal pressure drop that isn’t in the dangerous level. You track it then it’s roulette.
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Everybody has seen that video where have you been? There is another video of a guy spirited driving in the canyons with minimal pressure drop that isn’t in the dangerous level. You track it then it’s roulette.
Not looking at FA24 videos until recently?

I've heard they track just fine and then I see this. Like I've said before, I'll wait until the dust settles.
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My '04 STi had brakes that look the same as these and they fit under its stock 17" wheels. But will these brakes only fit 18s? I'd be pretty interested in getting the calipers aftermarket. I also wonder if they use a different master cylinder or or if there's anything else that would need to be swapped that I'm overlooking.
I miss the feel and look of my STi's brakes.
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Old 12-31-2023, 04:16 PM   #19
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That's disappointing to hear. If I had one complaint I have with the car, it's brake feel. I prefer a more firm linear brake feel with more bite early on and the BRZ feels mushy at first with feel the farther you get into it. Plenty of stopping power, just not a great feel.
Try a master cylinder brace. I would also suggest an ABS bleed. I have an Autel that can do the ABS bleed on the car. It would be about a 4 hour drive one way for you, but I could help.
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Try a master cylinder brace. I would also suggest an ABS bleed. I have an Autel that can do the ABS bleed on the car. It would be about a 4 hour drive one way for you, but I could help.
Thanks, I may try to find someone local to help with a brake bleed. I appreciate the offer.

I'd like to do a brace and maybe SS lines and thought about it more than once, but both would knock me out of DS class in autocross. STR in our region is pretty competitive with some pretty highly modified cars. At this point I don't think I'm ready to modify my car enough to be competitve in that class.
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Thanks, I may try to find someone local to help with a brake bleed. I appreciate the offer.

I'd like to do a brace and maybe SS lines and thought about it more than once, but both would knock me out of DS class in autocross. STR in our region is pretty competitive with some pretty highly modified cars. At this point I don't think I'm ready to modify my car enough to be competitve in that class.
Change the pad compound. Maybe something like the Carbotech AX6? Or Gloc, since it's guys that used to work at Carbotech and broke off and formed their own company.

I wouldn't bother with SS lines. I've never been able to tell the difference on any car I've done them on or my old sport bike.
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4.88 or 5.1 final drive would have been a spicy option
If you like non-stop shifting. You can overgear a vehicle.

Just for fun we tested this on my R6 at the drag strip. It was faster with just a +2 sprocket in the rear vs the typical -1/+2 that is often done (well back when I still rode) on nearly everything since they are geared so long from the factory.
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Change the pad compound. Maybe something like the Carbotech AX6? Or Gloc, since it's guys that used to work at Carbotech and broke off and formed their own company.

I wouldn't bother with SS lines. I've never been able to tell the difference on any car I've done them on or my old sport bike.
Pads are exactly where my thoughts were headed. I'll keep your recommendation in mind. I'm also looking at what CSG has to offer.
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If you like non-stop shifting. You can overgear a vehicle.

Just for fun we tested this on my R6 at the drag strip. It was faster with just a +2 sprocket in the rear vs the typical -1/+2 that is often done (well back when I still rode) on nearly everything since they are geared so long from the factory.
Motorcycles and cars are two different animals. My 2011 zx10r could do 109mph in 1st gear stock and I did -1+2 and it was always in torque.

The brz of geared like I stated would be great for tighter tracks, mountains but obviously hwy would suffer.
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Motorcycles and cars are two different animals. The brz of geared like I stated would be great for tighter tracks, mountains but obviously hwy would suffer.
I geared my Gen1 @ 4.56 and really liked it... the only negatives IMO were:

1) On bigger tracks like the Riverside NASCAR roval top speed suffered in the long straight and high banked turn. I maxxed out at ~ 117MPH

2) Even on a tight track like Streets of Willow, the two straights cost me a extra 4-5 shift immediately before the braking zone or I would hit the limiter. Once out of the pits the rest of the track was all 3rd or 4th.

Not contradicting you at all - the "constant shifting" is a bit overblown; however there are side effects even on the tighter tracks. As far as the highway goes, 3500RPM @ 70mph was no big deal to me. Your suggestion of 4.88 would be less than a 10% difference to what I run.

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That said, I have no immediate plans to change gearing on the Gen2 I have on order; I want to see what it is like on my favorite tracks first. If I can preserve the top speed and avoid an extra shift AND I am satisfied with the acceleration, then good enough...
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My '04 STi had brakes that look the same as these and they fit under its stock 17" wheels. But will these brakes only fit 18s? I'd be pretty interested in getting the calipers aftermarket. I also wonder if they use a different master cylinder or or if there's anything else that would need to be swapped that I'm overlooking.
I miss the feel and look of my STi's brakes.
The rear caliper is straight off an 06-17 STI, front is the same type of Brembo caliper that the 06-17 STI has with different sized pistons. STI is 46/40 front 40 rear, BRZ PP is 40/40 front 40 rear.

They fit fine under 17s, same master cylinder.
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Interesting the BRZ Ts eliminates the aluminum knuckles and replaces them with the steel units used on the GR86. The GR86 was tuned to be the more track focused car so it seems like the Ts is a GR86 with better brakes.
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Interesting the BRZ Ts eliminates the aluminum knuckles and replaces them with the steel units used on the GR86. The GR86 was tuned to be the more track focused car so it seems like the Ts is a GR86 with better brakes.
Well there goes my desire for the aluminum knuckles…
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