Random Thoughts - Part Deux [NO POLITICS]

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

If I may suggest... look into vinyl plank flooring. My wife and I did a HUGE concrete basement floor with the stuff ourselves three years ago, and looks as good as the day we put it in after very heavy usage. It's waterproof, looks GREAT, and very very tough. German Shepherd-claw-proof tough. It would be great for a bathroom, especially if you're considering vinyl tile or sheet, much easier to install, and looks WAY better.

Next bathroom or kitchen floor I do, if it ain't ceramic tile, it's vinyl planking.

a lot of the manufactured wood floors are waterproof now, beautiful, and cheap both to buy and install. Vinyl..no. Just no.

[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

If I may suggest... look into vinyl plank flooring. My wife and I did a HUGE concrete basement floor with the stuff ourselves three years ago, and looks as good as the day we put it in after very heavy usage. It's waterproof, looks GREAT, and very very tough. German Shepherd-claw-proof tough. It would be great for a bathroom, especially if you're considering vinyl tile or sheet, much easier to install, and looks WAY better.

Next bathroom or kitchen floor I do, if it ain't ceramic tile, it's vinyl planking.

Yeah, when I'm remodeling the 1st floor, I'm planning on vinyl plank the whole entire floor. It cost so much less than wood plank AND waterproof is very nice feature! This bathroom vinyl is just a "temporary" til we have enough money to remodel the 1st floor.

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

a lot of the manufactured wood floors are waterproof now, beautiful, and cheap both to buy and install. Vinyl..no. Just no.

A corrected version.. "a lot of the manufactured wood floors are MARKETED as being waterproof now..." We had friends put in high quality laminated wood floors in their basement. A couple bad rains, damp basement with a few little puddles, and the whole floor swelled and blistered. They removed it, put in vinyl planking, and never looked back. I would never, and I mean NEVER, put down any form of wood floor in a basement. You may be able to get away w/ laminate in a bathroom, but the recent vinyl stuff is SO good that you really can't tell unless you get close. If you haven't looked at vinyl planking in the last couple years, go look again. You might change your mind. Maybe not.

I love hardwood, and will always go for it in areas that are not routinely subjected to high moisture. Otherwise, tile or vinyl for this guy. I HATE maintenance.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

A corrected version.. "a lot of the manufactured wood floors are MARKETED as being waterproof now..." We had friends put in high quality laminated wood floors in their basement. A couple bad rains, damp basement with a few little puddles, and the whole floor swelled and blistered. They removed it, put in vinyl planking, and never looked back. I would never, and I mean NEVER, put down any form of wood floor in a basement. You may be able to get away w/ laminate in a bathroom, but the recent vinyl stuff is SO good that you really can't tell unless you get close. If you haven't looked at vinyl planking in the last couple years, go look again. You might change your mind. Maybe not.

I love hardwood, and will always go for it in areas that are not routinely subjected to high moisture. Otherwise, tile or vinyl for this guy. I HATE maintenance.

I was talking sheets, not planks. But I'm sure you are correct. We don't have basements here in San Jose.

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Sheetrock is a godsend, compared to it's predecessor (lathe & plaster).





humfrz

I broke out a lot of that in old homes in downtown SJ when working as a construction grunt working thru college. Some times it would be floated out so thick you would be banging out 5-6 inches of plaster.

[cjd]

Originally Posted by MuseChaser

Ok..that's the strangest story ever...you start out with the most difficult string instrument (and arguably the most difficult to learn of all instruments), then move to the most difficult brass instrument....then you're defeated by the ELECTRIC BASS? Dude....?!?! Being a functional bass player is so easy that I got PAID the first time I played bass. Now, Victor Wooten, Jaco, etc...that's a whole different ball o' skill...but anyone with an ounce of musical training..and you sure have pounds more than that... and about twenty minutes could play in most garage bands. If you dig it, stay with it!

I grew up singing and a little piano too. Mom was a conductor/teacher.


I never learned bass clef, and a fourth rather than a fifth between strings, plus frets were killing me. I kept hitting wrong notes. I had a few weeks on it I think... I was 14? By then I was also playing trumpet for marching...

[Sapphireho]

Originally Posted by cjd

I grew up singing and a little piano too. Mom was a conductor/teacher.


I never learned bass clef, and a fourth rather than a fifth between strings, plus frets were killing me. I kept hitting wrong notes. I had a few weeks on it I think... I was 14? By then I was also playing trumpet for marching...

I played trumpet and clarinet. I found playing other brass instruments, even single and double French horns quite easy to pick up after learning the trumpet.

Tried the violin for a summer, did not have the patience.

Music is great growing up, even if you only do it for a few years. you learn so many life lessons. New generation is missing out.

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

Yeah, when I'm remodeling the 1st floor, I'm planning on vinyl plank the whole entire floor. It cost so much less than wood plank AND waterproof is very nice feature! This bathroom vinyl is just a "temporary" til we have enough money to remodel the 1st floor.

As far as a hard surfaced floor covering (in non high moisture areas), I highly recommend PERGO® brand of laminate. The selections that already have the backing attached to it are much easier to handle.

We have had ours down in the kitchen/family/dining room for over 8 years and it still looks brand new.

It's quite easy to install, my son-in-law did it in less than a day


humfrz

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by Sapphireho

New generation is missing out.

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[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by humfrz

As far as a hard surfaced floor covering (in non high moisture areas), I highly recommend PERGO® brand of laminate. The selections that already have the backing attached to it are much easier to handle.

We have had ours down in the kitchen/family/dining room for over 8 years and it still looks brand new.

It's quite easy to install, my son-in-law did it in less than a day


humfrz

I did look into laminate vs vinyl flooring. Vinyl plank usually last longer than laminate (20yr vs 10yr), but vinyls are lil bit costly than laminate. While Laminate flooring can produce formaldehyde (small amount), which can be dangerous for younger kids... so for young couple who’s planning a “mini ichi” (lol) down the road, prob wanna avoid.

But again, 1st flooring remodel is few yr a head, so I haven’t really decided. My plan is, this yr remodel the basement. Next yr remodel 2nd floor and garage. Year after that of so on 1st floor (living room, dining & kitchen). Kitchen gonna be very costly remodel, so whenever have money save up for it, I gonna start on it.

[Tcoat]

Ok flooring, renovations and band instruments. The old guys have officially taken over the thread.

[MuseChaser]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Ok flooring, renovations and band instruments. The old guys have officially taken over the thread.

... and soon, Virgil Starkwell was good enough to play cello in his HS marching band...

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by ichitaka05

I did look into laminate vs vinyl flooring. Vinyl plank usually last longer than laminate (20yr vs 10yr), but vinyls are lil bit costly than laminate. While Laminate flooring can produce formaldehyde (small amount), which can be dangerous for younger kids... so for young couple who’s planning a “mini ichi” (lol) down the road, prob wanna avoid.

But again, 1st flooring remodel is few yr a head, so I haven’t really decided. My plan is, this yr remodel the basement. Next yr remodel 2nd floor and garage. Year after that of so on 1st floor (living room, dining & kitchen). Kitchen gonna be very costly remodel, so whenever have money save up for it, I gonna start on it.

Well, it looks like you have done your research

Good plan!


humfrz

[cjd]

Ooh, we're talking floors!


I really like working with bamboo flooring - and you can get it in just about every style, nail-down, floating... and some interesting colorings too.


Currently have the home theater in (low platform, with a 2nd row riser) and will some day float the rest of the basement... all raised up off the concrete to handle moisture properly (treated 1x flat, a layer of subfloor, then nailed proper on top of that).


That's the fun part of home ownership...