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04-05-2021, 12:14 PM | #15 | |
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173KW = 231.9 HP 235 PS = 231.7HP The announced most recent HP was 232. They will all be the same no mater what brand, model or location. People are just messed up by the error in interpretation and inventing scenarios to fit it. I bet the 228 was premature.
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Subaru's official website still says 228. So highly likely that the 232 is only for Japanese BRZ/GR86.
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04-05-2021, 12:46 PM | #17 |
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the engine is delivering the same amount of power, regardless of how people are trying to split hairs via whatever units. The powerplant is identical.
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Holy shit, imagine the difference! Why would anyone even fathom a Subaru when the Toyota is so friggen stacked? Probably comes with R888R tires and an angle kit for drifting
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Maybe the 228hp was on Cali piss water 91 octane.
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fake news saw this thread and wrote a story about it. :p
https://jalopnik.com/the-2021-toyota...sub-1846618096 |
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But gosh, the comments under BRZ articles go like these...."Put a turbo it in brah! Then I'll buy it! Needs more powah brah!" or "My mom's minivans beats you off the line brah!" These people fit better in Mustangs. |
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/othe...id=mailsignout https://www.thedrive.com/news/40055/...and-more-speed https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...r-86-revealed/ https://www.motor1.com/news/498782/2...-gr-86-reveal/ https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...ew-photos-info https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/s...-toyota-gr-86/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterly...h=59051fd91786 https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...parts-for-brz/ If it's 'fake news', then an awful lot of news organizations seem to be falling for it. Then of course there's this, the actual news release directly from Toyota - https://global.toyota/en/newsroom/toyota/34997138.html Which matches what everyone else has picked up on. So, in this case, it doesn't seem like 'fake news'. It seems totally logical that the specs for the GR86 and BRZ will be identical. It's hard to imagine how the same engine would have two different outputs in the same market (and how the companies would agree to that). Maybe the Japanese home market version will have a slightly different tune than the export cars, so that Japanese buyers can feel like they got the 'better' version. |
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has there ever been 2 different brands that release the same car with different engine specs? i don't believe so. i believe this to be a conversion difference. like when you translate english to another language, and then back to english.
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Clearly these cars have identical engines, with the Japanese spec GR86/BRZ perhaps higher than the US spec because of the higher quality premium fuel. It will be interesting to see the UK/AUS specs, I'm assuming they will match the US. |
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He needs to redo his calculations if the BRZ isn't getting a 13.5:1 compression:
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Actually he does, not because of the compression of course, but because the rev limit is said to be 7400, not 7500. Can I just say that the freaking marketing spec sheets confuse the heck out of me. I honestly can't say I'm sure there aren't any mistakes in either of them! |
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It says right here in this picture - both GR86 and BRZ have identical specs. And we know that the US BRZ gets 228. So it implies that there is a market somewhere (Japanese, let's say) that both these cars get 232.
Also, that most likely means that both the 86 and BRZ in the good ol' US of A get 228. |
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