Buyers beware

[royal.brz]

If anyone gets any sales leads to a John Morgan be aware. I have supposedly purchased a uel header/OP/FP combo from him and was suppose to get a tracking number yesterday. Ran reverse Google search on the images he sent me and everything looked good, but am now getting a run around. He has supposedly shipped them but have not gotten any shipping confirmation or tracking number.
His email is:
johnmor221@gmail.com

Be aware!
I got the lead from a now banned member which makes things a little more sketchy

[KR-S]

How did you pay? Is he replying still? Are you planning on filing a chargeback?

[royal.brz]

I payed through paypal friends and family as he had requested. I did get a reply from him on Feb. 11 saying that he had shipped my item, but still did not receive a tracking number after asking multiple times for one. have not heard from im since. I will begin to file a claim on Feb. 19th if i do not receive the items.

[soundman98]

i don't believe that you can file a claim, as part of the friends/family thing is giving up the paypal protections. all those paypal fees go to something...

[mav1178]

Originally Posted by royal.brz

I payed through paypal friends and family as he had requested.

kiss your money goodbye.

if you file a claim, it will be another 5-10 minutes of frustration.

unless you 1) are friends with the other person, or 2) are family with the other person, you should never use "friends and family" to send money to someone else. might as well burn cash, it's more rewarding.

[KR-S]

Originally Posted by royal.brz

I payed through paypal friends and family as he had requested.

Oh god. This is exactly what I was afraid of, and why I asked how you paid.

Originally Posted by mav1178

kiss your money goodbye.

if you file a claim, it will be another 5-10 minutes of frustration.

unless you 1) are friends with the other person, or 2) are family with the other person, you should never use "friends and family" to send money to someone else. might as well burn cash, it's more rewarding.

This. On top of being one of the worst ways to do a transaction, it's also against PayPal's own TOS. You get absolutely no protection from PayPal as they assume you're really sending it to friends and/or family.

Read the pinned thread, and always do a search of any kind to find out what kind of seller you're dealing with. Always use "Goods and Services" when doing transactions like these.

Good luck trying to get your money back - but I'm very sure it's gone. Take this as a hard lesson learned.

[Tcoat]

Does "John" have an account on this forum? If so what is his user name? We can have him banned.

[yelsew]

Originally Posted by royal.brz

I payed through paypal friends and family as he had requested.

Anyone who specifically requests Paypal F&F, Zell, Cashapp, or Venmo should automatically be suspected of being a scammer.

One of the trading subreddits I frequent has a good autobot that says "Payment methods like Paypal F&F, Zelle, Cashapp, and Venmo are discouraged because they offers zero protections to the money sender. Consider it like a western union money order, once you send it, there is zero chance of getting it back if a trade does not work out."

[royal.brz]

Update: as some of you had stated PayPal wouldn't do anything, but did tell me to get in touch with my bank. Soni did so, they ended opening an investigation and giving me my money back.
Thanks for all the heads up guys appreciate, just glad I got my money back ����

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by royal.brz

Update: as some of you had stated PayPal wouldn't do anything, but did tell me to get in touch with my bank. Soni did so, they ended opening an investigation and giving me my money back.
Thanks for all the heads up guys appreciate, just glad I got my money back ����

My question of if they have a user name here still stand though. If no then cool but if yes we should get him outta here.

[royal.brz]

Not that I know of, I got the tip about the items he had for sale by a user paulpeterson020 who has since been banned

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by royal.brz

Not that I know of, I got the tip about the items he had for sale by a user paulpeterson020 who has since been banned

Thanks. At least it is covered then.

[DandoX]

what is the best method to request and pay with. I thought paypal was the what I should be using?

[BigTuna]

Originally Posted by DandoX

what is the best method to request and pay with. I thought paypal was the what I should be using?

Goods and Services
https://www.paypal.com/us/smarthelp/article/FAQ638