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Old 04-09-2021, 10:48 AM   #15
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Once upon a time in the days of yore cars did not have expansion tanks. When the coolant expanded too much it came out the tube and pissed out all over the road. This of course meant that eventually the level would drop in the rad and have to be topped up with the proper MIX of water and "antifreeze".
Then one day some tree hugging hippes complained that cars should probably not be pour toxic chemical out all over the roads and the companies added the expansion tanks to hold that mix.
Unfortunately the tanks could not be air tight or else the pressure to release the expanded coolant would have to be incredible so they added venting to them. When the expansion tank fills up the coolant is HOT and the water evaporates off leaving behind the "antifreeze".
Strangely enough when the expansion tank is empty it does not mean the coolant is actually low. Unless you have had a leak (you will know it) what it really means is that the rad has just leveled itself off to the perfect amount inside when it is hot. The 6 ounces or so less when it is cold means nothing as far as cooling goes.
So the moral of the story is... If you have not had a physical leak but your expansion tank RESERVE is low, just add distilled water not "antifreeze". Your coolant concentration has not changed and all you need to do is replace those few ounces of evaporated water.
Now, if you have had a leak that is a whole different ball game.

Very interesting. Thankfully, it doesn't appear to be a coolant leak but I will be keeping a closer look at my fluids going forward.



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Old 04-14-2021, 11:17 PM   #16
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Then one day some tree hugging hippes complained that cars should probably not be pour toxic chemical out all over the roads and the companies added the expansion tanks to hold that mix..............
Here all along I thought they added the expansion tanks so as the snowflakes wouldn't open up an overheated radiator and spray hot coolant all over themselves -



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Old 04-16-2021, 10:56 PM   #17
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From my experience, employees at dealerships don't really care that much. I went in one time for an oil change and tire rotation. One guy "manually" took off my Mcgard locks and left teeth bites all over them likely from using pipe pliers without asking me if I had the wheel key. Then after all was said and done, I checked my engine oil, there was only one drop of oil on the dipstick. (eyeroll)

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Yeah I got mine with pretty low coolant too.
Makes me really want to change my oil shortly; I just can't decide if I want to do it myself (which requires the investment of a jack, stands, etc) or just take it someplace which is easier and cheaper in the short term (the latter being the real issue).
Do it yourself if you have the space. It is so much nicer to be able to do what you need to do without dealing with people that you have never met and you do not know. The money you save over the long run will absolutely be more than the price of good tools for the job.
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From my experience, employees at dealerships don't really care that much. I went in one time for an oil change and tire rotation. One guy "manually" took off my Mcgard locks and left teeth bites all over them likely from using pipe pliers without asking me if I had the wheel key. Then after all was said and done, I checked my engine oil, there was only one drop of oil on the dipstick. (eyeroll)

Would like to hear other people's routine maintenance horror stories.

I agree 100%. It's a shame that we need to verify that the work we payed to have performed on our vehicles was actually completed. For car enthusiast such as the members of this community it's not as much of an issue because we'll often double-check the work, but what about the other 90% non-enthusiasts? I'm getting tired of having to fight to hold companies to the standards they promote.
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I agree 100%. It's a shame that we need to verify that the work we payed to have performed on our vehicles was actually completed. For car enthusiast such as the members of this community it's not as much of an issue because we'll often double-check the work, but what about the other 90% non-enthusiasts? I'm getting tired of having to fight to hold companies to the standards they promote.
100% agreed. It sucks, but it is how the world works... Most employees at these places have lack of conscientiousness and we have to be the ones to pay for it. Now I have to check all work done on my car after ever single visit, either it be an autobody shop or a dealership for routine maintenance.
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I agree 100%. It's a shame that we need to verify that the work we payed to have performed on our vehicles was actually completed. For car enthusiast such as the members of this community it's not as much of an issue because we'll often double-check the work, but what about the other 90% non-enthusiasts? I'm getting tired of having to fight to hold companies to the standards they promote.
as the worker, i do my best a lot of times to walk people through the work i performed at the very end, many times offering them the old/broken parts if they want to hold onto them. i take pride in doing the work as needed, and don't mind people making sure that the work was done as they wanted-- i prefer to do the same.

most people want nothing to do with any of it.

thing brok? u fx thing?
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Do it yourself if you have the space. It is so much nicer to be able to do what you need to do without dealing with people that you have never met and you do not know. The money you save over the long run will absolutely be more than the price of good tools for the job.

There's some kind of oil pan drain or something I think I saw mentioned a couple times when I was researching prior to purchasing the car. I can't recall what it was but it was highly praised for making it an easier job. You happen to know what it is?
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There's some kind of oil pan drain or something I think I saw mentioned a couple times when I was researching prior to purchasing the car. I can't recall what it was but it was highly praised for making it an easier job. You happen to know what it is?
Fumoto quick drain oil valve. Only problem is it can sit lower than the rest of the vehicle and can catch on the road or debris if you car is lowered.
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Fumoto quick drain oil valve. Only problem is it can sit lower than the rest of the vehicle and can catch on the road or debris if you car is lowered.
not really. if you hit anything hard enough to go a 1/2" up into the skidplate, you're already having a really bad day, and the oil mess is going to be expected at that point anyways.

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I think the story he is thinking of is from someone out here.
Here you go.
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=107631

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You really don't know if your coolant is actually low unless you take the cap off of the radiator and look. Do this when the engine is cold. Then you will be able to see how much coolant you actually lost. If you cant see coolant add it directly into the radiator until it is full and then fill the reservoir to the proper level.
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