The Goal vs Porche 718 S turbo Boxer

[Deep Six]

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86

I think boosted BRZ vs 981/982 Cayman is the debate we should be having. The 718 seems to be in a different league to be honest.

Especially since the original question pertained specifically to drag racing as absurd as that sounds to be the focal point of these two cars. The modern 2.0l and 2.5l turbo motors that VAG are putting out have incredible torque curves. Then you add a tune and wow! APR stage 3+ 2.0 l cars are trapping close to 130 although that includes a $5K hardware package.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by fatoni

i dont think wheel gap has any correlation to street performance.

It doesn't. It's a ridiculous comment not even worth acknowledging.

or

Man, BMWs must be the most amazing street cars ever - their wheel gap is close to zero in some cases!

/sarc

[Agent 86]

Originally Posted by Bfranklyn86

I think boosted BRZ vs 981/982 Cayman is the debate we should be having. The 718 seems to be in a different league to be honest.

982 = 718

[Milhouse86]

Lol OP left after post #4

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by fatoni

i dont think wheel gap has any correlation to street performance.

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

It doesn't. It's a ridiculous comment not even worth acknowledging.

or

Man, BMWs must be the most amazing street cars ever - their wheel gap is close to zero in some cases!

/sarc

Lol. Good luck going with zero wheel gap in these roads:

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqrB-4HzB18"]Isle of Man Subaru BRZ rally ride-along with Mark Higgins - YouTube[/ame]



Here is the car with adjustable coilovers:

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Lol. Good luck going with zero wheel gap in these roads:

wheel gap =/= suspension travel

[Bfranklyn86]

Originally Posted by Agent 86

982 = 718

Didn't know that. Thanks

[nikitopo]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

wheel gap =/= suspension travel

Lol. You should say this to the rally drivers!

[totopo]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

Lol. You should say this to the rally drivers!

So this has negative bump travel???

wheel gap != bump travel. Porsches have a lot of travel past the top of fender

[nikitopo]

I thought we were discussing about performance cars and about specific road conditions. No?

Porsches are nice cars and perform well, but they have also weak points. If you think that there is a car (or suspension) which is best on everything, then you are living in a dreamland.

[WolfpackS2k]

What kind of asinine crap is this?

[r_rated]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

I thought we were discussing about performance cars and about specific road conditions. No?

Porsches are nice cars and perform well, but they have also weak points. If you think that there is a car (or suspension) which is best on everything, then you are living in a dreamland.

Lotus 400+ meets this criteria quite well.

[r_rated]

Originally Posted by nikitopo

You don't know what you are talking about.

let me drive your BRZ on a track and guaranteed something will fail. Just look at tires... it is a fantastically fun street car and hit the center of that target. If you don't over heat it an warp the rotors then you're not driving it hard enough on a track.

[Jaden]

Originally Posted by r_rated

let me drive your BRZ on a track and guaranteed something will fail. Just look at tires... it is a fantastically fun street car and hit the center of that target. If you don't over heat it an warp the rotors then you're not driving it hard enough on a track.

If you don't overheat and warp the rotors, then you're not driving it hard enough to overheat it and warp the rotors....Nothing else can be taken from that statement other than you're stupid enough to want to warp your rotors.

Jaden

p.s. Most non carbon ceramic rotors can be purposely warped on the track. Why you'd want to, I have no clue.