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Oh extra tip, Car and Driver dyno Supra and they got 338whp/427wtq. btw Toyota claim 335hp/365tq. But just take that as grain of salt. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...no-horsepower/ If you gonna compare, at least try to compare in same chassis... COUPE. As for LC, RC & NX, it's different department (which I'm not expecting you to understand) plus LC & RC aren't really doing well. LC is new, so you might see ppl buying, but RC? Not really... No one want 4 ton sporty car as much as you think. This is why, they're bringing those limited edi, but reality is, they're not doing much R&T test as much on those. NX? Just a trend we live in. Even Lamborghini is making crossovers, because that's where the market is atm. You love 86/BRZ, but not the Supra...? 86/BRZ is something different? Oh it's different alright. Lack power compare to Mustang Camaro or 370Z. Slower than 124. Not light as Miata or Elise. No functional back seat like Challenger. Low CoG? Yeah... Vette is lower. There's nothing "new" about 86/BRZ just same on things that have done by all other manufacturers have done. Even Subaru! Hell, I can buy base WRX cheaper than BRZ Limited PP. Base WRX, I can get extra functional backseat with TURBO and can smoke 86/BRZ on road, rain, snow or at the track. See what I did there. On the paper, 86/BRZ is "different" in bad ways... but when you drive it, 86/BRZ is "different" in a good way. 86/BRZ have done same thing all other have done, but did something different that selective owner will understand and love. I've stated this in my review of new Supra, but BMW and previous Supra branding truly bug you, don't look further than this. Cuz this isn't the car for you. Only selective owner will have HUGE SMILE on their face driving the new Supra. Quote:
2. TBH if BMW do MT, Toyota will bring MT at the same time... or earlier than BMW. 3. As for fake vents, he didn't put it there only for daily drivers. They made it for racing teams and shops that uses Supra for racing. [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PKbpN9DtSc[/ame] Your main question why choose coupe over vert... I can say the same thing. Why ppl choose vert over coupe? Why do you want soft that can rip, losses chassis rigidity, add extra weight and more breaking parts. Answer is simple. PREFERENCE. I rather have coupe and I would never own vert. |
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Supra GR suffers from car leprecy!
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I understand that one reason GR cars are silly expensive is because they get them from the factory in basic form and they modify them afterwards in a GRMN garage shop. There was a comparison lately of GR 86 with BRZ STI sport and Keiichi Tsuchiya said that the BRZ was better choice if you consider also the lower cost. Reason was that Subaru managed to create this model variant directly in the factory line without doing any after modifications.
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[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06784ZZF_2[/ame] GR86 & BRZ STI Sports have 2 separate focus in mind. GR86 focus on track vs BRZ STI Sports focus on all around like city & canyon. Suspension stroke is different, less strokes from GR86 compared to BRZ STI Sports. Brake is another factor. GR86 brake grab instantly vs BRZ STI Sports requires more pressure to get more grab. As a result, they both drive differently. GR86 ran 1’18” around the lap vs BRZ STI Sports did 1’20”. He stated that, if you’re looking for daily and all around drive, BRZ STI Sports. If you’re looking for track and shave time GR86. He didn’t specifically stated BRZ STI Sports was better. It's up to owner's preference and what owner looking from the car. Last edited by ichitaka05; 05-29-2019 at 10:51 AM. |
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