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Old 03-21-2013, 08:09 PM   #29
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i tried to see the product and pricing info on Napa Canada website but i couldn't find any. How much does it cost for the non-sustina line?
It's not on the website...they have to order it in. I don't remember the exact price I was quoted, but It was over $10 per litre. If you can get a 4L jug for $40, that's a better deal.
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Lol Napa wont carry ENEOS. Garage16 is a distributor in the GTA. I buy mine from FT86Speeedfactory whenever I get parts shipped to the US border towns.
Lol NAPA may not have it on the shelf, but they do "carry" it...lol. So does CarQuest, lol.
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Speedfactory s&h prices are too high for me now any other vendors on the forums sell eneos?
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Speedfactory s&h prices are too high for me now any other vendors on the forums sell eneos?
In for answer. Need to do 1st oil change ASAP
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You're going to back up that statement with data rather than opinion, right?
Its the good stuff... and if youre selling it at a good rate, I'm interested in a few cases..
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$74.99 seems to be the best deal, atm, on eBay. I'd like to pay $60ish.
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Speedfactory s&h prices are too high for me now any other vendors on the forums sell eneos?
Free shipping on orders over $250....$51.50 for 6 quarts i.e. one oil change....buy 5 = 1.5 to 2 years worth of oil changes. Problem solved.
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Ive used Mobil 1 full synthetic on both my Supras (inc turbo) and never any issues, oil never broke down under extreme heat(when my cooling system belt broke 3 miles from home in summer). brz engine runs great. my subie dealer uses mobil 1 too. i think your engine is breaking in. after your first oil change you got rid of metal shavings. I might try 5-30w or 10-30 next time. Motul and Ams oil are also great.
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Free shipping on orders over $250....$51.50 for 6 quarts i.e. one oil change....buy 5 = 1.5 to 2 years worth of oil changes. Problem solved.
At that point why not buy from a distributor and save just as much.
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At that point why not buy from a distributor and save just as much.
Meh. I like to buy all my car stuff from the same vendor if possible and deal with people that I have good relations with. Then again, I'm willing to cough up more coin in return for great customer service, so maybe our priorities are different.
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Ive used Mobil 1 full synthetic on both my Supras (inc turbo) and never any issues, oil never broke down under extreme heat(when my cooling system belt broke 3 miles from home in summer). brz engine runs great. my subie dealer uses mobil 1 too. i think your engine is breaking in. after your first oil change you got rid of metal shavings. I might try 5-30w or 10-30 next time. Motul and Ams oil are also great.
I had issues with Mobil1 in my old 2005 WRX both when stock and when stage 2 (catless up pipe, TurboXS catted turboback exhaust). Ended up losing about 1-1.5 quart of Mobil1 every 3000 miles. Changed to Castrol Syntec and didn't lose any oil between oil changes.

Only used Motul in the 2008 STI and never lost a drop of oil. I didn't want to chance losing oil (more fearful of losing oil pressure with that glass oil pickup...) with Mobil1 in the STI.

Nearly everyone who has used Mobil1 in a turbo Subaru motor has had issues with the oil disappearing. Maybe it will work in the BRZ/FR-S, but I'm not chancing it.
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DDs using most any brand shoudn't see too much consumption, I'd think. Most 0W-20s have fairly high NOACK values, however, so if you're going under heavy load, ie higher oil temps, you're bound to see some usage on longer drains. This is why most guys tracking their cars are using heavier weight oils.
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I had issues with Mobil1 in my old 2005 WRX both when stock and when stage 2 (catless up pipe, TurboXS catted turboback exhaust). Ended up losing about 1-1.5 quart of Mobil1 every 3000 miles. Changed to Castrol Syntec and didn't lose any oil between oil changes.

Only used Motul in the 2008 STI and never lost a drop of oil. I didn't want to chance losing oil (more fearful of losing oil pressure with that glass oil pickup...) with Mobil1 in the STI.

Nearly everyone who has used Mobil1 in a turbo Subaru motor has had issues with the oil disappearing. Maybe it will work in the BRZ/FR-S, but I'm not chancing it.
Losing oil doesn't really tell you anything about how an oil is performing and your consumption is well within the standards defined by SoA. I presume that you are referring to API SM Mobil1 5W-30. Mobil1 0W-40 is an excellent oil for a turbo Subaru (especially the SN version) and I have run it in my Cobb Stage 1 FXT with good uoa results.

I have no idea why someone would modify a WRX, and still run the factory recommended minimum oil grade, especially since 40 weights are allowed in severe conditions and required in hot temps. Nobody has shown that M1 0W-20 is not a good choice for a BRZ/FR-S. The 0W-20 Toyota Genuine Motor Oil is even made by ExxonMobil.

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I just picked up some 0w20 Eneos Sustina from http://ft86speedfactory.com/. I will let everyone know how the UOA comes back from the oil once its time to change. I also just installed a K&N drop in air filter...will be interesting to see a UOA with this filter also.

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