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Old 01-27-2016, 01:19 AM   #6819
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I'm planning on picking up a used kit next week, have a question

The previous owner put roughly 1k miles on the kit before he lost a rod, he said it happened because of the tune. He then got the engine built and is now running with the 335 unit.

Thoughts on what I should double-check anyways on the kit, given this information? He had said the tuner could not figure out what was going on with his poor idle (all the info I have about what happened)

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Can you get your tuner / shop to look at it?
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Old 01-27-2016, 01:43 AM   #6820
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Can you get your tuner / shop to look at it?
I'd trust the experts.
Hmm I'm going install it myself get it remote tuned by Moto-East. I don't know of any shops that have experience with this kit here
Just looking for pointers on what I should be looking out for with a kit that has blown an engine before (although tune is everything)
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Hmm I'm going install it myself get it remote tuned by Moto-East. I don't know of any shops that have experience with this kit here
Just looking for pointers on what I should be looking out for with a kit that has blown an engine before (although tune is everything)
Ah! Well that makes it a bit harder... But the tune is definitely a major consideration!
I guess it'll be like buying a second hand car... Check for abnormal wear where you can see it (and check it hasn't been opened up - bolts/scratch marks etc. some clown locally here opened his up and destroyed the laminova core!)
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Does anybody have pictures of the blower and manifold separated?
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Best one I've got :/
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Best one I've got :/


Thank you sir! any tips for taking it off? I want to send one in for a rebuild and am trying to figure out if its as easy as I think it would be.. have you ever taken off the side with the pulley?


If you have anymore pictures Ill take as many as I can get. preferably the underside of the blower, and the TB and pulley side as well.

Aaroncim@gmail.com is my email if it makes it easier.
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Is anybody running a 335 on a stock motor?

What are peoples thoughts on running a downtuned 335 on an otherwise stock engine? I would imagine since your running the 335 at a relatively low workload that it should be relatively safe compared to a 210. Would there just be too much torque? please I need all the insight I can get.

I've found a really good deal on a 335 but I only want as much power as an intercooler 210 would provide.
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Old 01-28-2016, 10:14 AM   #6826
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Is anybody running a 335 on a stock motor?

What are peoples thoughts on running a downtuned 335 on an otherwise stock engine? I would imagine since your running the 335 at a relatively low workload that it should be relatively safe compared to a 210. Would there just be too much torque? please I need all the insight I can get.

I've found a really good deal on a 335 but I only want as much power as an intercooler 210 would provide.
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Is anybody running a 335 on a stock motor?

What are peoples thoughts on running a downtuned 335 on an otherwise stock engine? I would imagine since your running the 335 at a relatively low workload that it should be relatively safe compared to a 210. Would there just be too much torque? please I need all the insight I can get.

I've found a really good deal on a 335 but I only want as much power as an intercooler 210 would provide.
@moto-mike had previously ran it on their shop car on a non built motor. You have to go oversized pulley to run less boost. There's a spreadsheet a few pages back that will show you what boost levels you can hit the 210/335. For reference, I have the 210 intercooler and basically capped it out at 12psi with a 69mm pulley. Made 256/211.
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Are you referring to the rebuild? could you please elaborate and show me what I may not be considering?

Does anyone have any experience getting a blower rebuilt by BBM?
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I have running 335 on the stock motor with an 85mm pulley. I only have 3k miles on the supercharge and 72k on the car. The tune is from moto east and runs e85. The fuel and exhaust system has also been upgraded to support the 335. The car is also an auto.

The car is a lot more fun but the stock tires wont stop screaming��. I do plan on building up the motor in a few years unless it lets go before that.
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Based on my spread sheet I linked earlier, upgrading the 70mm 210 kit to the 85mm 335 kit will give you about 45 more whp or so. This is running off the stock engine, before upgrading internals. There is a lot more left in the 335 supercharger and could go much smaller on the pulley than the 85mm. 210 to 335 is about $2600 before the money you'll get back from selling the 210 back to whoever, so it's not a bad deal considering what you can do later with the 335 vs not being able to go any further with the 210.

If I didn't already have one and was looking to buy one new, I'd get the 335+ kit for the small amount more compared to the 210.
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Are you referring to the rebuild? could you please elaborate and show me what I may not be considering?

Does anyone have any experience getting a blower rebuilt by BBM?
Power per dollar on this kit is best spent elsewhere. I have a 210 kit running ~ 280 RWHP and 12.8@110 in the 1/4 mile on 400 treadwear all seasons. If you're not going to build the motor you'll gain about 55-60 WHP and you'll have to upgrade clutch, fueling, etc especially if you want to run e85..

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Is anybody running a 335 on a stock motor?

What are peoples thoughts on running a downtuned 335 on an otherwise stock engine? I would imagine since your running the 335 at a relatively low workload that it should be relatively safe compared to a 210. Would there just be too much torque? please I need all the insight I can get.

I've found a really good deal on a 335 but I only want as much power as an intercooler 210 would provide.
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I have running 335 on the stock motor with an 85mm pulley. I only have 3k miles on the supercharge and 72k on the car. The tune is from moto east and runs e85. The fuel and exhaust system has also been upgraded to support the 335. The car is also an auto.

The car is a lot more fun but the stock tires wont stop screaming��. I do plan on building up the motor in a few years unless it lets go before that.
My 335 build is going to be up and running by April at the latest.
Stock engine, 85mm pulley and Moto-East tune. Other components and info are listed on my build thread.
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