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Old 01-25-2020, 06:32 PM   #1
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Delicious Tuning - NA Development Thread

Hi All,

We wanted to let everyone know with the changes to the business last year, I personally went back through all our 86/BRZ tunes and started from a blank canvas. I felt the way the tunes were being handled from initial delivery to final revisions for all our customers, new and old, was not to the level I expected. At the end of the day I am the owner and the lead calibrator of Delicious Tuning, so I can only blame myself on this.

So about a year ago, I made the choice to rebuild the process, work with some highly technical engineers in airflow design, and network/server automation so that we can build a better tune (better airflow in and out of the engine) and have a faster turnaround time (hopefully finish that up this year). It seems that the changes we introduced so far have worked well, as we became the #1 EcuTeK Dealer in the world. Thank all our customers for their support, it was greatly appreciated.




All the NA tunes we offer are brand new as of March 2019, they included extensive testing on quite a few header designs, including specific tunes for the following applications.

2013-1016 Intake Intake Manifold
- Stock 2013-2016 header,
- Stock 2017+ headers,
- ACE 350,
- JDL 4-2-1
- Tomei Unequal

2017+ Red Intake Intake Manifold (manual cars)
- Stock 2013-2016 header,
- Stock 2017+ headers,
- ACE 350,
- JDL 4-2-1
- Tomei Unequal

The major difference between the old/new tunes is in how the ECU adapts to sensor inputs, in what scenarios it adapts, how it adapts in those various scenarios and how quickly it will make changes. These adaptation help smooth out the power delivery, offer a wider / more controlled throttle input, and adjust to the environment conditions more so than before to ensure as much consistency.

Of course we are now using EcuTeK BlueTooth Connect and taking advantage of this through some cool features

EcuTeK BlueTooth Connect Delicious Tuning Customization
- Custom Traction Control Level Slider
- Custom Pops & Bangs Level Slider
- Custom Crackle On/Off Switch

We also have been developing tunes for the following:
- Greddy ITB's - Manifold Air Pressure Sensor Based
- Greddy ITB's - Alpha - N Based (throttle vs RPM)
- Full Blown Motorsports Manifold

In the works are some custom setups we are hoping to release this year, based on the results of of the customers we are working with. The plans are to increase the NA power above what the current limits with the current level of parts in the market.

There is also more in the works this year with further safety features and cool tricks we are implementing with the ECU. So be on the look out.

Safety Features In the Works
- Triple CEL Blink: to notify you when the VVT is not enabled. This is to inform you to drive lightly, as the cams are not active. (complete)
- More custom check engine lights coming for additional safety measures as the year progresses

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how much for a 300 hp n/a tune?

my motor is stock, but this guy says it's completely possible

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138720
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how much for a 300 hp n/a tune?

my motor is stock, but this guy says it's completely possible

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138720
Not sure what the plan is there. But I have been speaking with multiple engine builders, airflow specialists, and people that have been in the industry way longer then me. The consensus is if you can make this car rev a bit higher and change the airflow in and out of the engine, 250-260 is possible. So an increase of about 40-50 horsepower over what we are currently at.

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Not sure what the plan is there. But I have been speaking with multiple engine builders, airflow specialists, and people that have been in the industry way longer then me. The consensus is if you can make this car rev a bit higher and change the airflow in and out of the engine, 250-260 is possible. So an increase of about 40-50 horsepower over what we are currently at.

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As soon as I saw NA I thought to myself "Not this thread too..."

@DeliciousTuning Bill, how much money would you say is needed to reach 250-260 hp N/A? And for the heck of it, what do you think would be needed to be done to the FA20 actually reach 300 hp N/A?
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@DeliciousTuning Bill, how much money would you say is needed to reach 250-260 hp N/A? And for the heck of it, what do you think would be needed to be done to the FA20 actually reach 300 hp N/A?

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as we became the #1 EcuTeK Dealer in the world.
I'm thinking it would be a safe bet to say best Ecutek Dealer in the universe.
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then someone will ask him for a firefly-class ecutek cable...
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Not sure what the plan is there. But I have been speaking with multiple engine builders, airflow specialists, and people that have been in the industry way longer then me. The consensus is if you can make this car rev a bit higher and change the airflow in and out of the engine, 250-260 is possible. So an increase of about 40-50 horsepower over what we are currently at.



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... @DeliciousTuning Bill, how much money would you say is needed to reach 250-260 hp N/A? And for the heck of it, what do you think would be needed to be done to the FA20 actually reach 300 hp N/A?
You can swap in this beauty . Imho engine lighter then FA20, NA 356hp, 271Nm, redline 11600 should fit the bill.
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Have you guys done any testing/optimization with the Crawford power blocks? I.E. in combo with your other headers etc. Especially for the pump gas crowd these could be a nice incremental addition to the other NA mods.
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@DeliciousTuning Bill, how much money would you say is needed to reach 250-260 hp N/A? And for the heck of it, what do you think would be needed to be done to the FA20 actually reach 300 hp N/A?
To be honest not sure on the cost right now. But we have a few things we will be testing out this year while trying to maintain the stock long block.

But if all else fails then a built long block would be next, this of course will dramatically increase the price.

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Have you guys done any testing/optimization with the Crawford power blocks? I.E. in combo with your other headers etc. Especially for the pump gas crowd these could be a nice incremental addition to the other NA mods.
We have tuned quite a few of them, so there is good and bad on these. Based on stock intake manifolds.

The good, they help the midrange quite a bit, by increasing the torque through 6K RPM.

The bad, they hurt the top end since the runners have become too long, in turn hurting power above 6500 RPM's.

For daily driving, might be nice, but for all out power and top end they do hurt it a bit.
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You can swap in this beauty . Imho engine lighter then FA20, NA 356hp, 271Nm, redline 11600 should fit the bill.
Not fair.

The idea is to try and keep with the stock engine as long as possible. Then if we need to upgrade it a bit, such as head work.
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