follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > 1st Gens: Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 / Subaru BRZ > Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum

Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-23-2020, 07:50 AM   #29
ToySub1946
Senior Member
 
ToySub1946's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck
Location: Eureka, Ca.
Posts: 574
Thanks: 672
Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Though the OP did not ask...and I believe no one else even mentioned...

In manual mode the vehicle is gonna get worse fuel mileage.

That would be the big difference.

Most auto trans vehicles are designed to upshift early, boring, yet saves fuel.

Last edited by ToySub1946; 04-23-2020 at 08:04 AM.
ToySub1946 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2020, 07:59 AM   #30
ToySub1946
Senior Member
 
ToySub1946's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Drives: 15FRS, 05MustangGT, 85Toyota truck
Location: Eureka, Ca.
Posts: 574
Thanks: 672
Thanked 590 Times in 279 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
These trannys were great in the snow country.

Go directly from L to R or vice versa, rock the car, to get out of stuck conditions.

Geezer memories...LOL
Attached Images
 
ToySub1946 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ToySub1946 For This Useful Post:
Dadhawk (04-23-2020), humfrz (04-23-2020)
Old 04-23-2020, 09:19 AM   #31
mrg666
pessimistic skeptic
 
mrg666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Drives: '14 FR-S Monogram AT JRSC
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,767
Thanks: 1,695
Thanked 1,035 Times in 684 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by ToySub1946 View Post
Though the OP did not ask...and I believe no one else even mentioned...

In manual mode the vehicle is gonna get worse fuel mileage.

That would be the big difference.

Most auto trans vehicles are designed to upshift early, boring, yet saves fuel.
I have compared mpg. There is no difference when I shift manually for saving gas. I can also shift for performance driving, then all bets are off.
mrg666 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mrg666 For This Useful Post:
ToySub1946 (04-23-2020)
Old 04-23-2020, 09:45 AM   #32
Spuds
The Dictater
 
Spuds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Drives: '13 Red Scion FRS
Location: MD, USA
Posts: 9,432
Thanks: 26,115
Thanked 12,433 Times in 6,148 Posts
Mentioned: 85 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultramaroon View Post
Ignorance may be bliss but knowledge is power.
If OP wanted power, they would have bought a Mustang. They bought an 86, they already chose bliss.
Spuds is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Spuds For This Useful Post:
soundman98 (04-23-2020), Ultramaroon (04-23-2020)
Old 04-23-2020, 09:46 AM   #33
JoeC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Drives: Subaru BRZ Limited
Location: Colorado
Posts: 354
Thanks: 477
Thanked 222 Times in 118 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
serious question. Is is damaging to manually shift an automatic that doesn't have a "manual mode"? Every auto I've ever seen still has manual gear selections. Is it bad to use those to row through the gears or are they just made to hold the car in a certain gear?
JoeC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2020, 10:16 AM   #34
mrg666
pessimistic skeptic
 
mrg666's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Drives: '14 FR-S Monogram AT JRSC
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,767
Thanks: 1,695
Thanked 1,035 Times in 684 Posts
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeC View Post
serious question. Is is damaging to manually shift an automatic that doesn't have a "manual mode"? Every auto I've ever seen still has manual gear selections. Is it bad to use those to row through the gears or are they just made to hold the car in a certain gear?
Unless you shift to opposite direction gear or park while the vehicle is still moving, manual gear shifting is never a problem. Automatic transmission shifts perfectly every time since the shift is actually done by the transmission itself. Just engine/transmission wear can be a problem when you hold the gear at low and drive at very high rpm for extended periods, not mentioning the waste of gas.
mrg666 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mrg666 For This Useful Post:
Spuds (04-23-2020)
Old 04-23-2020, 10:28 AM   #35
Tcoat
Senior Member
 
Tcoat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: 2020 Hakone
Location: London, Ont
Posts: 69,845
Thanks: 61,656
Thanked 108,283 Times in 46,456 Posts
Mentioned: 2495 Post(s)
Tagged: 50 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeC View Post
serious question. Is is damaging to manually shift an automatic that doesn't have a "manual mode"? Every auto I've ever seen still has manual gear selections. Is it bad to use those to row through the gears or are they just made to hold the car in a certain gear?
Depends. Some would be fine and others would lead to disaster. Can't really give a yes or now answer.
Try shifting from D to L at about 50MPH with a 64 Chev two speed Powerglide tranny and watch the show as everything locks up as the engine screams (believe me).
Modern computer controlled trannies on the other hand would deal with it just fine.
__________________
Racecar spelled backwards is Racecar, because Racecar.
Tcoat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2020, 02:05 PM   #36
juanlien
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Drives: M5
Location: vancouver, British Columbia
Posts: 9
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds View Post
The car will be fine, you will be better.

With practice, you might be able to get a real transmission if your own one day!

(That was a joke, the classic AT vs MT arguments entertain me).
nice argument
juanlien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2020, 04:13 PM   #37
Ultramaroon
義理チョコ
 
Ultramaroon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Drives: a 13 e8h frs
Location: vantucky, wa
Posts: 31,867
Thanks: 52,127
Thanked 36,518 Times in 18,920 Posts
Mentioned: 1106 Post(s)
Tagged: 9 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuds View Post
If OP wanted power, they would have bought a Mustang. They bought an 86, they already chose bliss.
No replacement for the complacent?
__________________
Ultramaroon is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Ultramaroon For This Useful Post:
soundman98 (04-23-2020), Spuds (04-23-2020)
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Shifting Problem (Automatic) FRSure Issues | Warranty | Recalls / TSB 61 05-09-2021 07:38 PM
Automatic Supercharged Gt86 Shifting Issue Nawar Forced Induction 9 02-10-2019 02:25 AM
Automatic BRZ down shifting eric2523 Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 12 08-20-2015 06:30 AM
Automatic Transmission Kick/Choke when shifting gears Tech Gremlin Engine, Exhaust, Transmission 13 06-16-2015 01:54 AM
Paddle shifting automatic downshift FR-YES Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum 15 08-06-2012 09:18 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.