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Old 02-18-2021, 02:21 PM   #491
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Power = Potential x Current

In order for the electric grid to work, it needs to be maintained at a relatively constant potential. Power can be varied, but is optimized around specific outputs so you wind up with a step function of how much power you can add to the grid. Additionally, if you produce power at one point you get a voltage drop the further from that source you get, so you need to distribute your production to maintain that constant voltage. Basically, you need to maintain a minimum voltage for all customers at all times.

However, if there is not much current draw your voltage shoots up if you don't reduce power output, which as discussed has a minimum limit for a given area/grid topography.

Well, your equipment is only configured to handle so much voltage before you get all sorts of bad things happening. So to prevent that you need to dump your excess power somewhere safely.
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Well.....

The 2022 Bolt EV and EUV announcements were typical GM. Just enough to keep you interested, but also enough to make you disappointed. I'm ignoring the EV because it's too small (and ugly) for my needs. As far as the EUV:

The Good.
  • Super Cruise. I like the way SuperCruise works and would definitely buy it.
  • Design. The EUV design is OK, and is definitely a Chevy. I also happen to think the red/black one works well.
  • L2 Charging. The price includes installation of a L2 Charger at home
  • Interior Design. It still looks like a car.
  • Apparently it can jump into hyperspace and keep up with a x-wing. I'm going to insist on that if I buy one....

The not so good.
  • Range. 250 miles. Really wanted it to be 300 or even 350.
  • Design. OK. I like it for what it is, but its not very exciting. Oh, and the EV is UGly.
  • Price. It is probably priced right but I was hoping it would be less.
  • No AWD, although not a deal killer for me.
  • No mention of performance specs which means, nothing exciting there as I'm guessing it really doesn't keep up with an x-wing...

In the end, I could live with the EUV as a commuter/3rd car, but not at the new price. I guess I'll keep looking for someone besides Tesla to release a sports car, coupe e-car.

I wonder if they'll sell me the x-wing?
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https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/02...v-the-ioniq-5/

Here’s the first of Hyundai’s new 800-volt EVs—the Ioniq 5



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We've gotten used to new BEVs packing massive batteries, but the Ioniq 5's powertrain specs speak to Hyundai's confidence when it comes to engineering electric range efficiency. There are two pack sizes—58kWh or 77.4kWh (72.6kWh in regions other than the US). And there are two drivetrain options: rear-wheel drive, with a single 160kW (215hp), 350Nm (258lb-ft) motor; or all-wheel drive, with a total power output of 173kW (231hp) with the smaller capacity battery or 225kW (301hp) with the bigger pack. Regardless of pack size, the AWD Ioniq 5 produces 605Nm (446lb-ft).

Consequently, performance should be brisk rather than breathtaking, with 0-62mph (100km/h) ranging between 5.2 seconds and 8.5 seconds depending on the configuration. Hyundai has only given us a range estimate for the RWD plus the 72.6kWh config, which it says should achieve between 292 and 298 miles (470-480km) under the WLTP testing regime.

Like the aforementioned BEVs from GMC and Porsche, the Ioniq 5 uses an 800V electrical architecture, that among other things means it's capable of extremely rapid charging—from 10 to 80 percent state of charge in just 18 minutes when connected to a 350kW DC fast charger. Four hundred-volt DC chargers are more common, but some clever tech on the Ioniq 5 means it can use these, too—the motor and inverter handle doubling the voltage to satisfy the battery pack.
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Here’s the first of Hyundai’s new 800-volt EVs—the Ioniq 5
I like the exterior, they lose me on the interior.
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I wonder if they'll sell me the x-wing?
You would have to go to a dealer a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
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I like the exterior, they lose me on the interior.
It is a little odd. Not just modern, but weird. Maybe it is the arm rest? I don’t know. The exterior is good. It reminds me of a VW Golf front with a Tiguan/Honda EV profile. Overall, I wouldn’t mind it.
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It is a little odd. Not just modern, but weird.
I think it has to do with the sliding center console. It leaves so much wasted space. Plus, I don't see the point. I'm not going to slide it back for the passengers behind me, I'm likely using it.
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You would have to go to a dealer a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
Just as well, if its a GM product, the targeting computer would probably go out just as I was ready to make a critical shot, and I don't have the Force as a backup...
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As an aside, I watched this "announcement/commercial" on our 4K 77" TV at home. It's amazing how well they can integrate CGI into real life. Except for the fact the pilot never turns his head, it absolutely looks like the x-wing is flying alongside the car.
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I like the exterior, they lose me on the interior.
Which is a shame. Watched a quick video of it on Fully Charged and they said that the Koreans are the only ones currently up there with Tesla on Battery/Range.

I think the floating centre consoles will be something we get used to, it's not the 1st car to do it, as without the trans tunnel that comes with the adapted ICE cars what's the point in taking up the space unnecessarily.
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I think the floating centre consoles will be something we get used to, it's not the 1st car to do it, as without the trans tunnel that comes with the adapted ICE cars what's the point in taking up the space unnecessarily.
As I mentioned above, I don't see the advantage of it "floating" when they could just as easily provide a console for the back passengers providing more utility all around. Empty space between the seats in a car interior provides no real advantage, it's just empty space. It should be put to use.

Now that I think about it, it's probably the reason I don't like the "modern/Tesla Dash" look. It's empty space that something should be done with besides making it look like an unused shelf in a closet.
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Just as well, if its a GM product, the targeting computer would probably go out just as I was ready to make a critical shot, and I don't have the Force as a backup...
If GM made the X-Wing i'd leave it there at the dealership, in the galaxy that's far far away.
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If GM made the X-Wing i'd leave it there at the dealership, in the galaxy that's far far away.
My experience with GM products says the engines won't let you down, but the interior blinky lights and doodads may fail along the way and you'll have to slap the dash on occasion and R2D2 might rust a little bit.
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