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Actually, it is hard to tell if the audit resulted in Tesla discovering that the original car owner never purchased that feature, yet the car had it, so they removed it, or if the new owner didn’t pay for it, so they removed it. If it is the former then Tesla sold a car under false pretenses. If it is the later then there has got to be some fine print somewhere that says that certain features are not transferable to new owners like manufacturers do for some warranties or services, and again, Tesla sold the car under false pretenses for having features it didn’t have.
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It was on the window sticker for the car, at least according to the article. Seems to me someone paid for it unless they can show the original purchaser didn't pay the sticker price for the car. This is why I'll never own a Tesla, or any other car with remote "feature updates" than can include "feature removal".
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The other thing that hacks me off about this type of sales tactic is that means you really have paid for the feature at least partially in the price of the car. There is a LOT of hardware associated with flipping this switch. You can't put that into every car without taking it into account in the price of each vehicle, activated or not. I suppose you could do some type of calculation saying "well, we believe we will have a 50% take rate on this option, so we will price the option for those 50% to cover the cost of the equipment in all cars". So now if I'm stupid enough to pay for feature I'm paying for someone else to be riding around with the equipment in their car just in case they decide to activate it.
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I think Tesla will continue to thrive regardless of this fly in the ointment. Takes all kinds of people. Many people I'm sure are honest and try to do the right thing. Some people try to get away with whatever they can and flat out lie to get their way. I generally give people credit at first, but when I start to see a trend that suggests otherwise <cough> @Payload <cough>, I'll side with their opposition. If this autopilot feature can be simply turned on and off "without notice", what's to say a hacker can't mine their way into the settings and race to be the first with a jailbreak-Tesla. Good for Tesla for doing their audit. |
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Frankly, the "right" thing for Tesla to have done was admit their mistake (assuming there was one) and let the car retain the feature. If you bought a Corvette, let's say, and Chevrolet inadvertently sold it to you with the Z51 package for a base price because they had stickered it wrong, would you expect Chevrolet to be able to come back later and say "oops, we need those parts back, or another $5,000". Nope, didn't think so.
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I really do like your example of the Corvette Z51 package. The obvious reaction is also my reaction if that happened to me. I think it's an interesting situation however... For this scenario, I'll just refer to the Z51 package as a hardware upgrade. The Full Self Driving Capability (FSD) is a software upgrade. The Vette needs said hardware physically installed, where the Model S hardware is already capable, just a matter of checking the invoice box "Paid". If any company had the ability to correct an audit finding remotely vs requiring the customer to actively (and willingly) come to the dealership and "give back what we accidentally gave you," they would opt for remote every time. Remote is exponentially more cost effective, and it solves the problem right away. If it's a legitimate mistake, a dispute can resolve the correction. If it's still a valid argument, then Tesla doesn't have to waste time chasing the person down. Yes, even though the article says they bought it once, they shouldn't need to worry about transferring ownership of the options, THAT is just ridiculous. Now, if that's what is actually in question, then Tesla can eat a satchel of Richards. |
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