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@Art_Mighty · 11-22-2016, 11:14 PM

Will the custom front sway bar setup you folks came up with for your alpha customer eventually be available?

DustinS · 11-23-2016, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by @Art_Mighty

Will the custom front sway bar setup you folks came up with for your alpha customer eventually be available?

They have said they do plan on releasing it. Just no ETA at this point. It's good to note they never actually got one set-up and working, they are still trying to get it finished up.

@Art_Mighty · 11-23-2016, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DustinS

They have said they do plan on releasing it. Just no ETA at this point. It's good to note they never actually got one set-up and working, they are still trying to get it finished up.

That's good to know. Thank you...

MRS-Colin · 12-02-2016, 04:22 PM

I've been focusing on getting our kit out in the wild ASAP as Vorshlag seems pretty close to release.

It's looking like we might have a few different "styles" of kits depending on what people want. The hardware will all be very similar but will have different software. I'd like to hear from other people here as to what they would like to see. I've probably already talked to a lot of you, but it might be worthwhile to hear more.

At the basic level, I've heard a lot of people just want things like power steering to work. I'll provide a module that will translate whatever signal you want from a CAN ECU to the CAN bus of the vehicle. This will include the removal of the ECU located in the passenger footwell area. This will provide functional power steering, tachometer, coolant temperature, and fuel gauge. Nothing more.

Next we will have a package that will retain the factory ECU. This is very VERY vital for any "advanced" functionality to work as things like the brake and clutch switches report to the engine control unit. Our little device used in Rick's conversion does not have additional inputs to handle all of these extra inputs so we rely on the CAN signaling from the factory ECU to report all of these to our module. With this extra step we will be able to integrate things like cruise control, factory fan control through the existing wiring, A/C, etc.

After that we really need to move up to our larger unit which will bump the cost. I'm not quite sure what everyone would need from the larger unit, but it's there. I'm also debating making custom software for everyone who contacts me, but this will be very cumbersome.

Just keeping you all in the loop!

DustinS · 12-02-2016, 04:28 PM

Keeping the Factory ECU and having access to Cruise Control, A/C, Traction Control? and such is what I am after. Something that acts as if the car came with the LS from the factory if possible.

aaguirre123 · 12-02-2016, 04:56 PM

Keeping the factory ECU and be able to have power steering and AC. I can leave without track control. Also if possible a kit that will able to move back engine to have a closer 50/50 balance. I don't mind modifying the firewall.

ILLSMOQ · 12-02-2016, 08:52 PM

What Dustin said. All the features the car came with would be perfect

SleepingPanda · 12-03-2016, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aaguirre123

Keeping the factory ECU and be able to have power steering and AC. I can leave without track control. Also if possible a kit that will able to move back engine to have a closer 50/50 balance. I don't mind modifying the firewall.

Wouldn't it just be easier to move ballast? Like move the battery to the back. Or get a lighter front bumper support. I don't think anyone's going to just develop a special kit that moves the engine back. That would basically be designing a whole new kit. I don't think the engine is heavy enough for you to even notice the weight difference.

wooly35 · 12-03-2016, 12:07 PM

Retaining the factory ecu sounds exactly like what I want. Ill eventually want the ac hook up once summer comes back around

MRS-Colin · 12-03-2016, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by wooly35

Retaining the factory ecu sounds exactly like what I want. Ill eventually want the ac hook up once summer comes back around

A/C is really the next hurdle to tackle. With our small unit I can command the factory A/C clutch, but I'm guessing most people will use the GM ECU wiring for A/C as it will work better for load compensation etc. The real hassle of selling a small unit like this without a full harness for the vehicle is that I don't get to control how everyone converts certain sections of the swap. I'm trying to work with what most people are doing

hmong337 · 12-03-2016, 03:47 PM

So this ever gonna come out?

civicdrivr · 12-04-2016, 01:47 AM

I'm all for the advanced functions - power steering, abs, cruise, factory fan control, a/c, etc. Traction Control would be a bonus, even though I don't use it.

SleepingPanda · 12-04-2016, 08:04 AM

I'd rather have AC over traction control. Lol

aaguirre123 · 12-04-2016, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SleepingPanda

Wouldn't it just be easier to move ballast? Like move the battery to the back. Or get a lighter front bumper support. I don't think anyone's going to just develop a special kit that moves the engine back. That would basically be designing a whole new kit. I don't think the engine is heavy enough for you to even notice the weight difference.

Why do you care? You're not the one building the kit.

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12-02-2016, 04:22 PM	#732
MRS-Colin Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Drives: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA Posts: 139 Thanks: 14 Thanked 293 Times in 98 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've been focusing on getting our kit out in the wild ASAP as Vorshlag seems pretty close to release. It's looking like we might have a few different "styles" of kits depending on what people want. The hardware will all be very similar but will have different software. I'd like to hear from other people here as to what they would like to see. I've probably already talked to a lot of you, but it might be worthwhile to hear more. At the basic level, I've heard a lot of people just want things like power steering to work. I'll provide a module that will translate whatever signal you want from a CAN ECU to the CAN bus of the vehicle. This will include the removal of the ECU located in the passenger footwell area. This will provide functional power steering, tachometer, coolant temperature, and fuel gauge. Nothing more. Next we will have a package that will retain the factory ECU. This is very VERY vital for any "advanced" functionality to work as things like the brake and clutch switches report to the engine control unit. Our little device used in Rick's conversion does not have additional inputs to handle all of these extra inputs so we rely on the CAN signaling from the factory ECU to report all of these to our module. With this extra step we will be able to integrate things like cruise control, factory fan control through the existing wiring, A/C, etc. After that we really need to move up to our larger unit which will bump the cost. I'm not quite sure what everyone would need from the larger unit, but it's there. I'm also debating making custom software for everyone who contacts me, but this will be very cumbersome. Just keeping you all in the loop! __________________ Colin Beck

12-02-2016, 04:28 PM	#733
DustinS Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2013 Ultramarine FR-S Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 1,948 Thanks: 2,539 Thanked 1,414 Times in 804 Posts Mentioned: 31 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Keeping the Factory ECU and having access to Cruise Control, A/C, Traction Control? and such is what I am after. Something that acts as if the car came with the LS from the factory if possible. __________________ Last edited by DustinS; 12-02-2016 at 04:44 PM.

12-03-2016, 12:07 PM	#737
wooly35 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Drives: 2014 Scion FR-S LS3 Location: Kansas city, MO Posts: 178 Thanks: 168 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Retaining the factory ecu sounds exactly like what I want. Ill eventually want the ac hook up once summer comes back around __________________ 2014 scion FR-LS3 lol

12-03-2016, 03:47 PM	#739
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12-02-2016, 04:56 PM	#734
aaguirre123 Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: sti 2012 sedan Location: los angeles Posts: 87 Thanks: 37 Thanked 26 Times in 17 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Keeping the factory ECU and be able to have power steering and AC. I can leave without track control. Also if possible a kit that will able to move back engine to have a closer 50/50 balance. I don't mind modifying the firewall.

12-02-2016, 08:52 PM	#735
ILLSMOQ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Drives: 2017 WR BLUE BRZ Location: San Jose Posts: 641 Thanks: 608 Thanked 502 Times in 249 Posts Mentioned: 15 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	What Dustin said. All the features the car came with would be perfect

12-04-2016, 01:47 AM	#740
civicdrivr Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: 2018 Golf R Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 2,807 Thanks: 5,386 Thanked 1,095 Times in 647 Posts Mentioned: 68 Post(s) Tagged: 7 Thread(s)	I'm all for the advanced functions - power steering, abs, cruise, factory fan control, a/c, etc. Traction Control would be a bonus, even though I don't use it. __________________ Parting out HERE

12-04-2016, 08:04 AM	#741
SleepingPanda Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Drives: 2016 BRZ Hyper.Blue Location: Beverly MA Posts: 113 Thanks: 59 Thanked 131 Times in 47 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I'd rather have AC over traction control. Lol

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